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Trump approve raid without sufficient intel or support

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Amiga, Feb 2, 2017.

  1. Invisible Fan

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    If you told me that the military would speak up against the Chain of Command, I would have assumed it would be against a Democrat President. They're the ones with the **** military decision making, right?

    Quit knee jerking with those crocodile Benghazi tears.
     
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  2. ipaman

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    I totally predicted your mindless automaton responses. I think folks on the left have some form of PTSD since the election. Seek help friends.

    And for the record, you never heard about Benghazi from me. Especially in this context.
     
  3. Invisible Fan

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    So you don't care the right sinks lower and lower with Benghazi?

    Why can't you spare some sympathy for those poor souls??
     
  4. Bobbythegreat

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    It's been nothing but sad overly-emotional nonsense ever since the election. I wonder just how long it'll take them to get over it before they are ready to be adults again.
     
  5. ipaman

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    I called out OP and this thread as poor taste because I have never and would never politicize the death of an American soldier period.

    Many responded with BENGHAZI!!, I mean what a joke the left has become. That's why I made my tongue in check ptsd comment. Seriously, normal people have gone mental, total meltdown. These used to be regular normal folks. Get a grip.
     
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  6. DaDakota

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    We know we know.

    DD
     
  7. ipaman

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    You clearly have a mental disorder.

    I'm curious, do your riot, burn things down, fight, etc..., symbolically speaking, when you disagree with your wife and kids? It's scary how the left reacts to someone when they have different opinions or they disagree with them.
     
  8. Ubiquitin

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    Where has anyone on here rioted?
    Protesting with chants and signs are an acceptable form of nonviolent civil disobedience. It's a fundamental part of Liberty.
    I have always questioned its effectiveness as it can turn away neutral observers, but when there is injustice the appropriate action is civil disobedience. Unfortunately injustice is a matter of perception, but perceptions can be reshaped through protests.
     
  9. Invisible Fan

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    I'm just toying with you. Your selective cheerleading makes it easy.

    My toying excuses the bigger issue. The order that caused these unfortunate deaths in the first place, and whether our Gold skinned President will be held a bit more accountable for making better decisions in the future.

    The military thinks so.

    I think they're a big deal, but maybe others don't trust their biases.
     
  10. JuanValdez

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    I can understand the distaste with "politicizing" the death of a civil servant or soldier. At the same time -- and this is for Benghazi and for the recent Yemen raid -- if our people get killed because of the foolishness or negligence or corruption of our elected leaders, putting up the "don't politicize this poor soldier!" defense can be a sham just there to protect this leader from accountability. There needs to be some space to talk rationally about whether there was a leadership failure and whether accountability should be brought to bear while also avoiding self-serving partisan opportunism. Open debate by the general public is probably a really poor forum for that. A Congressional investigation, like the Benghazi panel that investigated the murder of our ambassador, can probably come to a better more sober-minded conclusion.
     
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  11. ipaman

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    TRUMP, TRUMP, TRUMP!!!

    LOCK HER UP!!!, LOCK HER UP!!!

    If I reply like that to posts I disagree with, that's akin to rioting on a message board. There is no real debate or discussion, no tolerance, just flat out disregard for the other side.
     
  12. Amiga

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    Next time the military call out the POTUS for making a call without sufficient Intel or military support, I will bring this thread back up again. You call it politicizing. I call it bringing awareness and attention to a reckless man, with the most powerful military in the world.
     
  13. Bobbythegreat

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    The ONLY reason this raid didn't happen during the Obama administration is because of the moon cycle, they were waiting for a moonless night. The raid was completely planned out under the Obama administration.....but don't let the truth get in the way of a good narrative I suppose.

    Seriously, at some point you are going to have to stop embarrassing yourself like this.
     
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  14. ipaman

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    What happened was awful but that's the price of being involved in stupid wars. All recent presidents have blood on their hands.
     
  15. Ubiquitin

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    No way! Rioting is people coming through a neighborhood and destroying property and even killing people.
    Your example would just be you trolling.
     
  16. Ubiquitin

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    Where did you find this? I saw he pocket vetoed the plan, and it was brought back up for Trump and he just did it half assed.
     
  17. ipaman

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    You're dear leader Obama has blood on his hands. You better get to work because you gotta a lot of threads to create so you can bring awareness. I'm not kidding, every president has innocent blood on their hands and we need to know about it! Good luck with your efforts, I look forward to the awareness you'll be providing.
     
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    Akin
     
  19. Amiga

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    Obama doesn't matter anymore. What the military said matter dude. You going to ignore it?
     
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    That information came out today, the reason the raid wasn't done earlier is that they wanted to wait for a darker night and the next one didn't come until after Obama was out of office. Otherwise, this raid would have happened earlier while Obama was still in office.
     

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