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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by NewRoxFan, Sep 23, 2017.

  1. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Yet, week 3 ratings were up 3% over week 3 of last season.
     
  2. B-Bob

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    1. Who cares? If you care about their benign little protest, or our idiot President's tweets about it, don't watch the NFL and do something more productive than care about their ratings. I mean, right?
    2. We all look forward to the detailed analysis that perfectly separates the alleged effect of kneeling versus the effect of quality of televised games versus the effect of the enormous brain-damage controversy. (I personally know some people who are a lot less comfortable watching games, when they know they are literally watching brain damage on just about every play.)

    It's interesting to note that Two Scoops has come out in favor of brain damage. This is consistent with what he says he loves in his voters.
     
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    no they weren't, they all keeled to basically "stick it to Trump". If the issue was about inequality they would have kneeled with Kaepernick last year.

    The thing is I dont think Trump gives two ***** about the flag, or disrespecting the military, this is the same guy that insulted McCain for being a POW. He just tweets outrageously moronic things because that's what he is. I bet he just loves what is happening right now with everyone overreacting on both sides.
     
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  4. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Right because people went back into time and unwatched the games before all the kneeling in order to lower the ratings.

    Gotta love these morons who post this crap.
     
  5. JumpMan

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    It's obvious to anyone with a properly functioning brain that these protests are deeper than one singular event or that they started on an NFL field. That they are emotional, but justifiably so. That they were strategically instigated by Trump who is using this to excite his prejudiced and battered base, air his deflated ego, and distract from his most recent political failures. And that if you were to pick one league whose players would themselves feel oppressed enough to have done this it would be the NFL and never the NBA. But it's also the fan base that is least likely to be understanding of the plight of the people whose name they're protesting for.

    This is already costing the NFL money. I'm not sure what the long term effects of it will be, but something's gotta give. The players can continue to protest and ownership could continue to join, but left-leaning people who choose not to follow the NFL because of its treatment of its players or its violent nature or its deep south roots or because so many of its fans are conservative or whatever reason aren't going to start to watch and support it because there's a sudden rebellion on the field.

    On the other hand, Trump's words are acting like fertilizer to the deep seated racially motivated tension in many football fans minds, and, unfortunately, the demonstrations just watered those internal issues and those fans are wilding out against the NFL. They are measurably hurting a league that was already declining in part due to Kaepernick, but also to the low-key guilty conscience they feel when CTE is mentioned, and surely other factors, too. The people applauding these players aren't going to replace the fans that could easily get their pre-Civil Rights America nostalgia fix on Saturdays from college football.

    So it's going to be interesting to see how this thing plays out. Could the players agree to stand for the anthems if it gets them closer to guaranteed contracts? Because, unlike the NBA's CBA, NFL players don't have to stand so owners can't legally fine or suspend them. At this point, no team would be able to field a team anyway.
     
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  6. TheRealist137

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    Kaepernick said why he was protesting and all of the players say why they are protesting. None of it has to do with one singular incident. I'll trust their 1st person statements over an online strangers words, and so should everyone else. End of discussion.

    Secondly but more importantly, you think racial inequality doesn't exist, then explain why black people are sentenced to harsher punishments for doing similar crimes as white people, even when they have identical criminal histories. I am waiting.

    https://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/12/...d-whites.html?referer=https://www.google.com/

    This is why people are protesting.
     
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  7. durvasa

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    This is a false narrative, because it asserts his kneeling was due to a single incident as opposed to an accumulation of data points indicating, in his view, a systemic problem with police treatment of black people and accountability for their actions.
     
  8. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    I think the very idea that black people are not allowed to protest is dispicable. These players are showing solidarity with minorities who feel disenfranchised with the system. They as individuals have nothing to gain but ridicule for their actions.

    Like I said before if they were protesting gun laws people like Bobby and RL would be hopping up to be the first to support them.
     
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  9. Dankstronaut

    Dankstronaut Way, way out here.

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    Right, well as crazy as it sounds, there are gads of people who still don't think racial profiling by law enforcement is a reality. You're downplaying so many incidents with one incident. To be honest, I don't even know what you're talking about. But I have seen enough to know police, hell, PEOPLE look down on black skin. Just accepting or acknowledging the racial slant our law enforcement and PEOPLE tend to take would be a huuuuuge, gigantic, enormous, gargantuan sized step in the right direction. It may even be enough, who knows? It may be enough that more PEOPLE simply acknowledge these incidents to bring about a change in the way things happen.

    Awareness can absolutely be the spark.

    And Colin Keapernick is still a bag of dicks.
     
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    If those on the Democrat left don't think that Democrat candidates are going to get pummeled with campaign ads tying them to this unpatriotic behavior at these football games (and probably in the NBA also here shortly) and also the violent assaults on law abiding citizens by the Democrat's domestic terrorist wing (Antifa), then they are in for another huge shock.

    These ads that are going to be made from all of this will be some of the most devastating ever produced.

    The Democrats own this un-American, unpatriotic conduct.
     
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    Robert Kraft, Dan Snyder, Shad Khan and many more NFL owners are ardent Republicans; they have also contributed millions to Drumpf's inaugural.

    they, along w their players and coaches, participated in this demonstration of unity.


     
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    It shows how trivial you think patriotism and love for this country is when you determine who loves this country and who doesn't based on trivial symbolic gestures.
     
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  14. MojoMan

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    It shows how unpatriotic you are when you disrespect our flag and our national anthem by denigrating them as trivial symbolic gestures.
     
  15. dobro1229

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    I think we learned alot about Right Wing/Russian political ads and the lows that they will stoop to in order to draw any conclusion they can in connecting dots in order to stir up their base of conspiracy theorists.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/busi...6d061d56efa_story.html?utm_term=.077501658ecb

    And there is almost no difference now in Russian bought fake news, Fox News, what campaign ads looks like on the Right, and what people like you parrot out on internet forums like this.

    Soo.... yeah you are right. Antifa, Colin Kap, 9/11, Pizzagate, JFK Assassination, Big Foot.... IT WILL ALL be used against the Democrats in 2018. Its up to the American people to starting using their brains again, or to follow along like scared stupid drones.
     
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  16. MojoMan

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    Those people give money to both sides and they are all about their own wealth.

    Also, watch what happens over the next few weeks. I don't believe the NFL owners will hold the line on this much longer. They appear to want to show some support for their players who buy into this vile anti-American conduct so that they will not be seen as throwing them under the bus as much later when they put a stop to these protests DURING the national anthem.

    What is likely to be more interesting is to see how the owners of the NBA teams handle this when the same controversy hits the NBA in a few weeks.
     
  17. fchowd0311

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    I think tangible actions are more beneficial to this nation then acting like standing for a song does anything of relevance. Do you even know that tax payer money is dumped on the NFL just so they can waste millions on elaborate pre game jingoists spectacles. The DOD has to pay the NFL millions to "honor the veterans". Sit down and reavulate your patriotism.

    It's based in trivial nonsense. If you honestly think someone's love for their county and fellow country men is based in a flag or standing for a anthem, you've lost what it means to actually be in service to your country.
     
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  18. MojoMan

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    Wow. What a post. Whatever you say there guy.

    LOL. Whew.
     
  19. dobro1229

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    LOL. NBA owners care a hell of alot more about impressing Lebron James, Steph Curry, and CP3 than they do about their loyalty to Trump and aggrieved white people who probably hated basketball to begin with because.... do I have to say it....?
     
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  20. dobro1229

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    WOAHH.... Such a huge controversy to say that FoxNews and Fake Russian bought news on facebook is so different!?!?!... NO WAY MAN.

    Read the article. The ads they injected into social media focus on the same crap people like you b**** about nonstop, and is the same crap we hear on FoxNews nonstop. What.... are you saying you don't think BLM and Antifa are some world ending organizations that are a referendum on "THE LEFT"?

    Give me a freaking break. We all know that BLM, Antifa, and the NFL Kneeling controversy will be a referendum on Democrats and "the big bad left" because your media telegraphs everything so other media sources and right wing parrots on internet forums can easily pick up and run with the talking points.

    Don't act so shocked with the truth dude. People aren't as stupid as you'd like to think they are.
     

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