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Trump 2016: Yes. We. Can.

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Honey Bear, Aug 5, 2015.

  1. Nolen

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    I hear you, but this is an internet BBS. There's no reason for anonymous individuals to pretend they won't vote for someone, and it's certainly not the case they're afraid to offend someone in this place. I really believe these guys aren't going to vote for Trump - I've never seen any of them defend the stupid crap he does; they just defend him by attacking Hillary.

    Now IRL, I could see a Trump voter hiding their preference from friends and family for fear of being perceived as a gullible, authoritarian, xenophobic fool.
     
  2. val_modus

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    Triggered neo-con alert.
     
  3. rocketsjudoka

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    The Washington Post did an indepth piece on one Trump supporter. It is very fascinating look into the mind of one person who is completely sold on Trump. It is also how disturbing how many of her more extreme beliefs are frequently echoed throughout social media including here on Clutchfans.

    I will add though that it is unfair to consider her typical for a Trump supporter as this woman is mentally ill and is noted in the article that she is under treatment. While I disagree with Trump supporter I think it is a mistake to lump them together.

    It looks like with the new format can't post full long articles so here are a few excerpts.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...b6f334-7f68-11e6-9070-5c4905bf40dc_story.html

    ‘Finally. Someone who thinks like me.’
    She was a 52-year-old woman who had worked 20 years for the railroad, had once been a Democrat and was now a Republican, and counted herself among the growing swath of people who occupied the fringes of American politics but were increasingly becoming part of the mainstream. Like millions of others, she believed that President Obama was a Muslim. And like so many she had gotten to know online through social media, she also believed that he was likely gay, that Michelle Obama could be a man, and that the Obama children were possibly kidnapped from a family now searching for them.
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    The first time she had seen him, at a rally in June, she was just beginning to realize how many people saw the world the way she did, that she was one among millions. At the time, her hips were still sore from a series of injections intended to calm her. She had gotten them in February, during a difficult time in her life, when she had been involuntarily hospitalized for several weeks after what she called a “rant,” a series of online postings that included one saying that Obama should be hanged and the White House fumigated and burned to the ground. On her discharge papers, in a box labeled “medical problem,” a doctor had typed “homicidal ideation.”

    Melanie thought the whole thing was outrageous. She wasn’t a person with homicidal ideation. She was anxious, sure. Enraged, definitely. But certainly not homicidal, and certainly not in need of a hospital stay.

    “It never crossed my mind that I’m losing it,” she said several months after her release, and a big reason for this conviction was the rise of Donald Trump, who had talked about so many of the things she had come to believe — from Obama being a founder of the terrorist group ISIS, to Hillary Clinton being a co-founder, to the idea that U.S. Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia may have been murdered in a White House plot involving a prostitute and a pillow.
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    More and more, she was meeting people who felt the same as she did, joining what amounted to a parallel world of beliefs that the Trump campaign had not so much created as harnessed and swept into the presidential election. As Melanie saw it, what she had posted about Obama was no different from what a New Hampshire state legislator and Trump campaign adviser had said about Hillary Clinton, that she “should be put in the firing line and shot for treason.”

    “If it’s time to lock me up, it’s time to lock up the world,” Melanie remembered thinking when she had heard that
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    She was usually the only woman on a crew, but she prided herself on being tough, so when she heard that some higher-up had called a colleague and asked, “What’s Austin wearing today, her green miniskirt?” Melanie laughed it off. She ignored the boss who she said left a Penthouse magazine on her desk. But then came the sexually explicit graffiti about her in the train toilets, and a male colleague’s calling her “psycho b****” over the radio, and another male colleague’s flying her underwear like a flag off the train — all of which became part of a sexual-harassment lawsuit Melanie filed against the railroads. In 2002, a jury awarded her $450,000 in damages, a verdict overturned by a federal judge who did not question the facts of the case but decided that the matter had been handled appropriately.

    Austin has come to blame President Obama for what she considers the decline of her community, the United States and the world. She has been deeply skeptical of him from the start. “Nobody knew him! I mean, ‘Dreams from My Father’ from Kenya?” she said, referring to Obama’s memoir.

    “The jury gave me my one moment in the sun as far as justice was concerned,” Melanie said. “But the politicians are never going to let a little girl slap two Class I railroads, and they didn’t.”

    That was the moment when she began to see so clearly how the world worked, she said, and it wasn’t just about the judge. It was about a whole corrupt political system, starting with the governor at the time, Ed Rendell — “that dirty, filthy politician I call Swindell” — who she figured was in the pocket of the railroads and had influenced the judge.

    And it didn’t stop there. Rendell was friendly with Bill Clinton, and Melanie was sure it didn’t help her case that Clinton was president and embroiled in sex scandals when she began filing complaints with the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission. “To see Slick Willy’s photo all over, you just wanted to barf,” she said.
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    To her, the president seemed so far away, so oblivious to the decay she saw around her that when Donald Trump began suggesting that Obama was not American, it made sense. When Trump and others suggested that Obama was Muslim, to Melanie it seemed plausible. And when Obama started talking about, of all things, gay marriage and letting transgender people into bathrooms, it all came together: The president of the United States was a gay Muslim from Kenya working to undermine America.

    The more she thought about it, the more certain she became, and with certainty came a feeling of confidence — a sense of liberation that culminated over several days in February, when she decided, “I’ve been pushed around all I’m going to be pushed around,” and began unleashing 20 years of feelings online.
     
  4. Ubiquitin

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    BREAKING: TRUMP CHOOSES PRESIDENTIAL SONG



    I am a real A M E R I C A N

    He'll fight for what's R I G H T

    He'll fight for your L I F E

    Now you may not be able to relate to him

    But you'll sure benefit from listening to him

    If you had all the answers, we'd all be millionaires

    But you don't, and you're losin all your hair

    IF YOU Hurt my friends

    Then you hurt my pride

    Islam wants us dead

    Rotting from the inside

    Trump is a real A M E R I C A N

    Hey Charlie, we gotta get rid of those roaches man!

    I asked Hilary to do it, but twitter told her it's not PC

    Man the dems made a big mistake by nominating her

    You're right about that, B R O T H E R!

    If you hurt my friends , then you hurt my pride

    GOTTA BE A MAN, CAN'T LET IT SLIDE

    YEAH!
     
  6. Mr.Scarface

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    A REAL AMERICAN PAYS HIS TAXES.....oxver the last 20 years.
     
  7. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    Trump says soldiers committing suicide are doing so because they "can't handle it"

    http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/03/polit...-ptsd-suicide0542PMVODtopLink&linkId=29477948

     
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    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/04/us/politics/trump-foundation-money.html?_r=0

     
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    The Many Scandals of Donald Trump: A Cheat Sheet
    • The Beauty Pageant Scandals
    • Racial Housing Discrimination
    • Mafia Ties
    • Trump University
    • Tenant Intimidation
    • The Four Bankruptcies
    • The Undocumented Polish Workers
    • Alleged Marital Rape
    • Breaking Casino Rules
    • Antitrust Violations
    • Condo Hotel Shenanigans
    • Suing Journalist Tim O’Brien for Libel
    • Refusing to Pay Workers and Contractors
    • Trump Institute
    • Buying Up His Own Books
    • Undocumented Models
    • The Trump Foundation
    • The Cuban Embargo
     
  12. Nolen

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    This week ALONE:
    • Lost the debate
    • Sent a tweet in the middle of the night to encourage people to see a sex tape that doesn't exist
    • Allegedly dealt with Cuba, illegally
    • Allegedly dealt with an Iranian bank that supported terrorism
    • NYT releases three pages of his '95 return, showing a billion dollar loss which allows him to never pay taxes for the next 18 years
    • New York Attorney General sends a Cease and Desist order to the Trump Foundation, ordering them to stop collecting money because they are not legally registered to do so
    This is such a firehose of awful news, I wish we could spread this all out with one thing for the media to focus on per week.
     
  13. Rashmon

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    Putin, RL and friends still can't quit him...
    [​IMG]
     
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    Pence is killing it. If anything shows how disfunctional the GOP is they have a VP candidate who is showing more gravitas than Any other presidential and VP candidate currently running and then at the top of the ticket a man who can't go a week without getting into a twitter war.
     
  17. SamFisher

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    Name a single GOP politician in living memory who has not shown more gravitas than Donald Trump.

    Paul LePage maybe? Palin? You could make a case - you'd probably lose, but you could make a case. Other than that it's pretty much impossible

    I mean even the roster of convicted criminals/former house speakers like Dennis Hastert show more gravitas - and that guy raped children.
     
  18. fchowd0311

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    Well, for all we know Trump raped a 13 year old.
     
  19. Rashmon

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    Well, there is that NAMBLA thing people keep bringing up.
     

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