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Trump 2016: Yes. We. Can.

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Honey Bear, Aug 5, 2015.

  1. dmoneybangbang

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    Trump got spanked with a small irs fine for donating from his foundation to a Floridida judge who had influence in his Trump University lawsuit. Pay to play?

    Lolololololololololololololololz.
     
  2. Dei

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    Traitors should be shackled on the top of the wall tbh
     
  3. Carl Herrera

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    Many of us who live in decently diverse places laugh at the "taco truck" comment because we pretty much already live a life of plenty of taco trucks-- and halal chicken trucks, Chinese restaurants, sushi bars and all kind of other ethnic foods often run by immigrants. We are customers to these businesses from time to time.

    It's kind of interesting how Trump supporters (the person who made the comment and others reacting to it) actually take taco trucks as a threat. This is not because they are in the food business and taco trucks are actual economic competitors for them or that people who run taco trucks and other dining business are somehow threats to their personal safety. Instead, this is because of a visceral reaction to anything "foreign"-- they can't stand the sight of those whom they find "different" thriving.
     
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    They're peddling methane bombs and should be categorized as L2 weapons of ass destruction.

    Flan is the new yellow cake.
     
  5. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    How do they avoid paying taxes on consumer goods?
     
  6. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    Taxes on consumer goods don't pay for food stamps, welfare, or medicaid.
     
  7. London'sBurning

    London'sBurning Contributing Member

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    Wrong again.

    https://www.americanimmigrationcoun...ions-tax-dollars-paid-undocumented-immigrants

    They pay more taxes than big business. You're also upset they send some of their earnings to family members across the border. Are you then saying every cent of every paycheck should just be spent on American consumerism and not saved? Do you not see how stupid a comment that is to make? What jobs exactly are they taking away from Americans? The blue collar stuff at crap pay that most Americans don't wanna do? How exactly are they depressing wages when there's a large political party that's been fighting against raising the minimum wage? How exactly is it illegal immigrants faults that our government is fighting raising the minimum wage level?
     
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  8. fchowd0311

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    You should join ISIS. They have a flair for over the top punishments also.
     
  9. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    He said they don't pay taxes. They are paying taxes. Whether or not they tend to pay payroll taxes or income taxes is another story.
     
  10. London'sBurning

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    They also pay Social Security even though they don't benefit from it.
     
  11. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    Its not another story, it's the story. It's just a lame misdirection attempt. You want to claim they pay taxes because anyone who buys anything pays sales tax except when we commonly refer to someone as not paying taxes or not paying their fair share of taxes we're obviously referring to income taxes. They don't pay a dime for food stamps, Medicaid, or welfare.
     
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    The only reason and the only way they pay into it is because they've stolen the identities of American citizens. You make it sound like they're doing us a favor by stealing our social security numbers. Just give them your info so they won't steal mine, thanks.
     
  13. fchowd0311

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    https://news.vice.com/article/unaut...billion-into-social-security-over-last-decade
    http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2016-03-01/study-undocumented-immigrants-pay-billions-in-taxes
    Come again?
     
  14. Cohete Rojo

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    Notice how the illiberals are avoiding this proposal by Trump like the plague.

    [rQUOTEr]Trump calls for new civil rights agenda in visit to black church

    Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump stepped up his bid to win over minority voters by addressing a largely black church in Detroit on Saturday and calling for a new civil rights agenda to support African-Americans.

    As scores of protesters outside chanted "No justice, no peace," Trump said he wanted to make Detroit - a predominantly African-American city which recently emerged from bankruptcy - the economic envy of the world by bringing back companies from abroad.

    ...[/rQUOTEr]

    I guess I don't understand why anyone would need this. We have a booming tech sector. You'd figure people in Detroit would look for jobs at Facebook and InfoSys. I'm sure they're hiring.
     
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    Don't need to when majoirty of these social security numbers are either fake or expired. Hence, why they don't receive the fruits of social security. So it's a win-win for us citizens. So ya... you are still wrong.
     
  17. Cohete Rojo

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    Taking their money back to Mexico, Guatemala, etc is enough of a win for them. Let's not pretend like every single illegal immigrant is here to raise a family in the US. The multiplier effect between US per capita GDP and these countries the illegals originate from ranges from 5-15.
     
  18. London'sBurning

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    I fail to understand the concern with a taxed earned paycheck doing hard labor that probably equates to a few hundred earned per week being sent across the border. Not all of it is transferred since these illegal immigrants pay rent, groceries, and probably afford themselves to a night out catering a portion of their salary to American consumerism. I don't see the outrage when big businesses keep over $2 trillion in assets offshore but you want to confiscate the very little earned from typically hard workers that statistically are law abiding more than not unlike the narrative Trump has tried to sell.

    http://www.cnn.com/2014/07/16/opinion/pease-tax-avoidance/

     
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  19. Dei

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    Not all taxes.


    I would prefer that 11 million people wouldn't be sending money out of the country. It's not equal to saving.

    Those 'blue collar stuff at crap pay' have crap pay because of cheap unlimited labor driving down wages. Less labor = higher wages with or without a minimum wage. It's not that hard to understand.
     
  20. Dei

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    Like Trump says, corporations need to worked out but stop making a wrong analogy between them and illegal immigrants. They're both problems that need to be fixed.
     

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