Proposition: ideally, there should NEVER be an incentive for a team to intentionally foul Truehoop has some ideas about how to achieve this: http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/58270/just-play-basketball Letting the offensive team choose to shoot free throws or retain possession on every foul is interesting. It would mean there is no way to get the ball back under 24 sec without forcing a turnover. Allowing the team to choose who shoots FTs on every foul would be just as radical.
Letting the team choose would not work. Passing in the ball is a high turnover scenerio. If my opponent had the ball with 10 seconds left and the lead, I would.keep fouling until we stole the ball on the pass in. You would see like 10 fouls in 10 seconds.
The fouled team would have to chose to retain possession. I'd think they'd just take the free throws and make you pay for fouling over and over again.
FIBA has long-since banned intentional fouls, and these same players do just fine without intentional fouling in the Olympics. How does this work?
If the team would take the free throws then nothing would be accomplished by the rule change. Imagine u are down 1 with 10 seconds left and the other team is dribbling the ball at the top of the key. You would foul here becuase either they shoot f ree throws and u get the ball back or they must pass it in. The choice changed nothing.
how about a time-frame rule: intentional fouls with more than 2:00 left in 4th quarter, outside of the lane results in two free throws AND the ball.
How about no pass in? Just give the ball back to the player who had it on court and pretend nothing happened.
b/c nowadays these scrub players spend 10x more time lifting weights than practicing actual bball skills like FT shooting
Since when does FIBA not allow intentional fouls? Are we talking about intentionally fouling a person with possession of the ball? What is wrong with that? It would be a judgement call to say when the foul is intentional or not. Making rules to stop it would not work, since fouling the guy with the ball happens 50 times a game. Maybe you are talking about fouling away from the ball. The Hack-a-Shaq rule is fine for them. Maybe just extend it to 3 minutes left, instead of 2. This is not broken. Don't try to fix something that isn't broken.
Yeah I'm with heyp, not sure what they mean. I assume it means "Hack-a-whoever" not end of the game intentional fouling. The latter is a legit basketball strategy.
I like it. Doesn't all this lead to players still fouling just not in a manner that looks intentional? If the league wants to treat intentional fouls differently then it would need to define intentional fouls. How would the league define a foul as intentional?
If the league doesn't want intentional fouls then they would have to give major advantage to the player getting fouled. But then this would be horrible as ref subjectivity will play a powerful role to match outcomes (More than it is now). It will also encourage flopping even further to gain such advantage which means flopping will have to result into a more severe punishment. But this reinforces ref subjectivity playing a even more powerful role to match outcomes. Balancing this is very delicate as the small ripple creates tidal waves. The biggest flaw here is because "intentional" is treated as subjective. And when we play with subjective issues, we are bound to lose because no ref can be objective. And rigging games can continuous be justified because of loopholes from the subjective issue. So the way I see it, whether it is intentional or not, you should just treat it as a foul so there's not subjectivity involved.
Just eliminate free throws entirely. They are boring. One point plus possession on a non-shooting foul and the value of the shot on a shooting foul plus one if you still make it. Then there would never be a time it is advantageous to foul.
That's insane. Shaq would 100% be considered the greatest player of all time if these were the rules.
1 How about not calling the foul. 2 The offensive guy w/ the ball when the foul was committed gets to shoot the FT.
