Agreed. That's the best the news can factually report without more evidence. For shootings, they can report "gunman". The news could say it was a terrorist, but that's still a jump to conclusions since we have no motivation yet, even though all of us are pretty certain it's a Muslim terrorist. RIP to all the victims and I hope all the injured recover.
Some good news: 24 of the 49 hurt people that have been hospitalized yesterday only suffered minor injuries and are on their way home.
I've always felt that the migrant/refugee flow is unidirectional - there is no going back. I wonder if, over the coming years, that will change anyone's opinion in places like Germany, central Europe, and eastern Europe.
Hardly anyone at all is ever deported. Basically, less than 1 % of people. And it's extremely expensive to deport someone. Yes, which is sad. There are actual refugees who are trying to escape war and oppression, and those get lumped in and get a bad name because of all this crap. I didn't mean you personally, it was more a rhetorical question: How can anyone be surprised that nationalist/racist assholes benefit from this Islamist crap - that's what infuriates me so much, and what is so tragic about it: The leftist Pavlov's reflex of immediately branding everyone a Nazi and racist who brings up any rational discussion of the dangers of totalitarian ideologies such as Islam just leads to actual Nazis and racists benefitting. I am neither a Nazi nor a racist, but the dangers of Islam are real. And it pains me when pointing them out in a rational way, trying to separate criticism of the ideology (which I think is urgently necessary) from demonizing people who happen to have been born as Muslims (which is despicable, and what racists do) is shouted down. It just leads to actual racists getting more support. And I actually hate it when it looks like I am on the same side of an argument as actual racists. There are a few people on this very forum who are critical of Islam who strike me as actual racists and xenophobes. I am not one of them.
Initial suspect has now been released from detention, so the real culprit is indeed roaming free somewhere. This is getting ugly.
ISIS has assumed responsibility. I guess FranchiseBlade and TheDelusionalist137 can stop strip-searching random Greeks now. But yeah, German police...behind the curve. And because of Germans' obsession with data protection and privacy, probably not even good surveillance footage.
Where's the disagreement? That's exactly why they are looking past the incompatibility of Islam no matter how many deaths / rapes they cause - over compensating for the Nazi period. It's embedded deeply in the psyche of policy makers and those who gain the momentum to get elected into office. Germans are very self conscious of how the world views them - Americans, not so much. Ironically, Muslims are the biggest victims in all of this - no one tells them how it is and they get trapped in a vicious cycle of manipulation and intolerance. Western society turns into parents who enable drug addicted children. Teaching democracy to the muslim masses is like teaching a hyena French - a cute idea, but never plausible. FYI: A 6 day conducted tour through a country is not spending time in it. As I demonstrate time and time again, I see trends before others, the Trump presidency being the latest one. You've got to isolate islam and let them change their own narratives for how to deal with the civilized world before you attempt to play host.
Honey Bear is 100% correct about Germans overcompensating when it comes to Islam. The irony, of course, is that they once again thereby harm Jews, even if unintended. If you don't think an influx of a million Muslims from the Middle East causes a rise in anti-semitism, think again.
Any refugee in England or Germany is an economic migrant. They crossed several countries not at war after leaving a country at war.
They could insert the word "driver" after the word "truck". Not very difficult, also don't think it takes up that much space in a headline, tweet, etc.
The obsession is truly strong here, even had close friends hiding their fingers/blocking my view when typing in passwords for crappy emails or other irrelevant accounts. Guess it's because of the GDR/Stasi past and fear-mongering in the media, people seem to prioritize their privacy more than authorities preventing & solving crimes with surveillance. And the people advocating against better surveillance ironically always seem to be the ones with the most boring lives and absolutely nothing that any authority would care about or could use in any way.
Stay Safe German Rockets fans, my brother ATW It was obvious who did this, correct > politically correct
Apparently the Polish truck driver was still alive when the truck was being steered towards the people, tried to fight the terrorist to save people's lives, got stabbed multiple times and got shot and killed after the truck came to a halt. Terrible.
Point of order. That article says "More than 2,000 men were allegedly involved, and 120 suspects — about half of them foreign nationals who had only recently arrived in Germany — have been identified." That means that 60~ were recent migrants/foreign nationals, not 1000~. Also, there is no mention of who/where these people came from. It's easy to blame strange or upsetting phenomenon on foreigners, etc. But I'm really curious about this NYE episode. So apparently last year Germany just had a ridiculously huge number of sexual assaults occur on NYE for no apparent reason? Am I understanding this right?
No, that just means that the police wasn't able to do their job. 2,000 Arabs/people from Afghanistan etc. molesting girls, and what, maybe 50, 100 police officers. They just didn't manage to control the situation at all. They were overwhelmed. And when it says "half of them foreign nationals who had only recently arrived in Germany", then that doesn't mean the other ones weren't foreign nationals. Practically all of them were "foreign nationals" or of foreign origin. But some had already been there for a few years, rather than a few months. It was the "Taharrush" sex mob phenomenon known e.g. from Egypt, where it happened on Tahir square. It is clearly connected to certain religious/"cultural" attitudes towards women. You don't need to relativize this in any way. It is what happened. Not only in Cologne, but also in other German cities (e.g. Hamburg). And while it was a mass phenomenon on New Year's Eve last year, this is far from the only time it happened. Fact of the matter is that these people do not have the same respect towards women, especially Western women. They are educated by their religion or "culture" that women who don't veil are fair game, and that's how they act. If you think I am generalizing or stereotyping - no, those are the facts.
FYI: I've been to Germany numerous times, beginning in the 1960's. You seeing "trends before others?" I have to laugh.
Uh no, it means that only 120 out of 2000 have been identified and half of those were migrants. And yes, following evidence and witnesses everyone knows that the overwhelming percentage of the 2000+ were North-African and Middle-Eastern.
