Troy Aikman just claimed Miles Austin is best wide receiver in NFL! Pure homer talk?!

That' being shut down for the so-called world's greatest WR. He did nothing. And RW was the focal point since the Cowboys saw Jackson couldn't cover a bed.

 

Damn, I hotlinked that original image. Doesn't seem to be coming up correctly.


Troy Aikman

 

That's not being shut down, buddy. Besides, 4-2 is better than 1-4, so leave.

 

I'm not going anywhere anytime soon. Five Super Bowls is greater than zero. So leave.

 

And how many playoff wins since? .....how many years since?

So far it's been a fun season no?

 

Austin Miles got shut down by the worst passing defense in the NFL, nuff said.

 

^^^^^
Obviously I meant "Miles Austin" in that post

 

Did he get shut down or were the other receivers just so wide open that there was no reason to throw to Austin? Statistically, Austin's been the best receiver in the NFL for the last year. If AJ > Austin, Schaub > Romo, and Kubiak > Phillips, something is not right.

 

If he was the best receiver in the NFL, wouldn't he be open?

 

That's funny that someone said Andre was shut down with 64 yds. Not a great game, but I guess shut down for him. Miles isn't anywhere near the best. Let him do it for a few years and I'll give him a nod. I'll take AJ, Calvin, Fitz, Marshall and Moss over him right now. V Jackson, Rice and Desean Jackson also are in the running with him.

I think the guy is great and its debatable that he's in the top five, but Aikman just comes off like an idiot in saying that.

 

Seriously, why the f are you on this board? If you're such a Dallas fan (fair-weathering for the Dallas Rangers and now the Cowgirls), why aren't you visiting some crappy DALLAS website? Why don't you leave this site for fans of HOUSTON? Go troll somewhere else.

EDIT: One more thing: welcome to my "ignore" list, d-bag.

 

I'm pretty sure he said that Andre Johnson was better than Miles Austin. I think he said "Miles Austin is the best receiver except for maybe Andre Johnson," or something like that.

 

Last I checked, Miles Austin has zero Super Bowls. Same with Romo, Ware, and basically every other player on the team. I dunno where you're getting the five from? Maybe you're mistaking this Dallas squad with that great team they had in the 90's?

I fail to see how that could be possible, since this squad can't hold a candle to our Texans team, much less legendary Super Bowl dynasties.

The past is past. The distant past is even more past. Welcome to the 2000's, where the Cowboys are a lot closer to toilet bowl than they are to Super Bowl.

The Rockets have 2 championship banners. The Jazz, 0. We take great pride in our championships, but that's never the reason why our current team is better than theirs. If we're better, its because our record is better, we have more talent, better coaching, etc.

Same goes with Cowboys vs. Texans
1-3 vs 4-2
AJ vs. Austin
Schaub vs. Romo
Foster vs. Jones? Barber? I dont even know.
Kubiak(yuck) vs Phillips (double yuck)

/rant

 

All better. Last I checked these Cowboys are 1-4.

Austin is a good WR, and i'm sure the stats from last year might even say he had better stats.

Yet...Revis and Aso will both tell you who is the hardest WR to cover. I'm also sure most coaches would choose Andre over Miles and Fitz and Calvin over Miles.

Also where is Austin in the big games, the games they need to win? Andre is always making huge catches, keeping his team in the game and not just this year. Dude is clutch

Sorry Cowboy fans, Austin looks good on paper but he's more like Zach Randolph. Putting up good numbers but no one in their right mind would have them as a top 3 PF.

 

Although it is not the same as the situation with a RB, for the most part in football it's almost absurd to compare individual stats because the majority of those stats are contingent upon factors outside the individual's control. In the WR's case, those factors include the offensive scheme, quality of the quarterback, quality of the quarterback protection, defensive scheme of the opposing team, quality of the secondary, and quality of the run defense (if sucks really bad like the Colts' then most likely the team will elect to run more than pass, since that has the added bonus of eating up clock and keeping Manning off the field).

All that being said, we like to say that Andre Johnson is "considered" to be the best WR in the game today. Why do we say that? Well, some of our argument is facetious for the reason I listed above--based on individual stats alone, he's led the league in receiving yardage for the past two years and is the only player in history except Jerry Rice to do so. You can chalk that up to Houston having a good QB in Schaub and a good passing game outside of Johnson to keep teams honest when they do double him (which is most of the time). So yea, ignore those stats if you want to.

The real reason so many of us think that it's consensus now that he's the best is because, well, so many of the commentators are saying it now. It used to be "one of the best", then it became "top three", now lots of them are saying "the best". Part of that is due to the regression of Larry Fitzgerald and Randy Moss the past year and change; due in no part to their own I bet, it's probably just that their offenses got less good at utilizing their skills, for different reasons in each case. The numbers don't back those players up anymore, and people have to resort to namedropping Reggie Wayne, Brandon Marshall, and Miles Austin when they want to give Andre some competition.

In reality though, football is a highlight driven sport. We're looking for things that superstars do which look superhuman. So far now this year Andre Johnson's caught two basically game-winning TD's, the one today and the one on 4th-and-10 in the Washington game to send it to OT. Now that Washington one I have to admit was amazing, a game-winning catch in an away game on 4th-and-10 with Schaub scrambling out of the pocket and throwing up a desperation heave, which Andre had to effectively catch as a jump ball against his defender. Although most Houston fans would say that nobody else in the league would have made that play, you could possible argue that a handful of WR's would have pulled it off also if given that situation.

No, amidst all the ridiculous catches he's made in his career, there's one particular play that pops right in my mind when I think of "what has AJ done that no other man on Earth could do?" Yeah, tell Miles Austin to put this one in his pipe and smoke it:

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Finally, there's all the X-factors: Andre Johnson is quiet, doesn't complain, does his job always, is a fantastic blocker, doesn't let his ego get in the way like so many other star WR's have done, and most of all is willing to sacrifice his stats for the sake of making the team more balanced and better suited to win. That entire package right there is why people in Houston as well as those outside have come to accept that he's the best WR, and there's not much debate either.

 

That play was sick. The only other elite receiver I can envision doing that is Marsahall. He's bulldozed many a safety in his day.

Regarding your first point, that's why I find Calvin Johnson so amazing. He's on a horrible team, and is able to have a huge game, even with a third string quarterback of a bottom-of-the-barrel team, and no other real threats beside him. Reminds me of AJ when the Texans were horrible. If a Detroit fan told me that they thought their Johnson was better than ours, I'd respectfully disagree, but wouldn't argue with them. If Andre is #1, Calvin is #1.5.

Austin is somewhere like #8 or #9.

 

Sure - but if everyone's open, why not throw to the other guys? That game brought Roy Williams back to life and he's actually (sorta) living up to his billing now in the last few games.

Similarly, there are lots of times where Schaub could throw to AJ, but throws to Walters or other players because they are MORE open. When you can just throw at Kareem Jackson all day long, why bother with anything else?

What is the relevance of this? Does this mean that last year, when the Cowboys had the better record, Austin was the better receiver?

This would certainly be the best measure of who's the best receiver. Much better than arbitrarily picking stats from whatever game shows whatever we want to show, or looking at team records at some sort of weird justification, etc. But at this point, all this is only conjecture.

 

This is where stats would fail you. You need only watch these guys play to know who the best receiver is. You can make an argument for Larry Fitzgerald. But Miles Austin isn't in the discussion with those two.

 

Miles Austin can't carry Andre Johnson's hall-of-fame jockstrap, let alone wear it.