^ Don't bother with this guy. In his own sig he compares Budinger to Kobe. Ariza is better than Budinger. If the Rockets didn't believe so then playing time would've shown otherwise. He's arguably better than Battier, but that's just debatable. Anyways solid move because on a player basis I think we take on someone that could be a little worse or a little better than Ariza, but much cheaper and it gets us a TE. You're just delusional with your hype on Budinger. I think he's a damn fine rotational player, but to elude him as some type of next Kobe or future all-star is absurd. Put down the blunt, bro.
I like how all of DD's predictions shatter through the glass table. Vassilis Spanoulis. Vakeaton Quamar Wafer. ... Now perhaps even Chase Budinger? Its like Clutchfans' version of the Madden curse.
Watch other teams besides the Rockets more often. No, the Wizards and Knicks were nothing elite on defense, hell, they sucked, but the only bright spot they had(outside of Haywood in WAS) was Jefferies' versatility on D. He was the one who guarded Paul one night, Carmelo the next, etc. He has the ability to guard 1-5 depending on how small the 5 and 4 is. And enough with 3=3 and 4=4 on positions. You guys don't even watch & know basketball if you're fixed with rigid positions. It's like saying oh he can't play the 2, only the 3 and vice versa. Listen, a swingman is a swingman, a PG is a PG, and a big man is a big man. Either can play either position that they're assigned to beisdes PG(unless they go small ball with 2 PGs in the lineup like we do). Want an example? Look no further than our opening day roster with Ariza & Battier. Both "can't" play the 2. Well who did then? And what do you call K-Mart? Only a "2", well what happens when we play Los Angeles and he guards Artest, whose only a "3", and Artest guards him? Does that make him a 3? Apply that to Kobe-Battier. No differences really.
Enough with the Budinger crap seriously. He will be a good role player at best. There is no way Chase freakin Budinger can lead a team through round one of the playoffs. Its preposterous to compare his rookie stats to Kobe's rookie stats. Do you honestly think Chase Budinger is going to be a better player than Kobe? As for Ariza, there is nothing wrong with him saying he will be an all star one day. We all know he won't be but at least Ariza himself is not willing to settle for less. Good luck to him.
Jeffries: came into the league as a swingman, has shifted to a 4 in recent years after losing his quickness. I don't consider him a SF anymore, only in a pinch against a slow mover (Grant Hill, Tracy McGrady) would you put him there. Ariza vs Budinger: Budinger is a far more efficient scorer and sticks to his role. Ariza's tendency to go off the reservation with 6-17 nights was a killer. With Martin taking over as primary scorer, Chase becomes a far better fit on offense. Chase is a big drop off in terms of being a team defender, but isn't as bad a downgrade in one on one defense. Ariza vs Battier: For all my love of Battier, he's simply on the verge of retirement. He never could score effectively outside of standstill open look 3s, and now his ability to get to spots on the floor is iffy. Ariza's a chucker from deep, but he could attack the rim decently, was probably our best help defender, and was a more prolific scorer. Ariza had the biggest pluses and biggest minuses of the SF crew, but his salary, 3 point terrorism, and alleged friction with Brooks absolutely do him in. Having Courtney Lee behind Martin is more than worth losing Ariza over. We need snipers at the wing positions and capable role players.
DD, you are spamming every thread in the GARM with minutely different variations of the same post over and over and over and over again. Please, we get the point...
Try to understand context before posting. The comparison between CBud and Kobe is not to say anything about Cbud's ceiling but that you can't judge where a player will be in his career by his rookie year. And, I am not the one that is high on CBud that is Morey and Adelman. I don't know if he will be an all star or not, he might be, he might be just a good role player........but we do know that after 5 years in the league Trevor is what he will be....his ceiling is lower. You trade that guy....and clear the decks for the younger more skilled player. Basketball team building 101...learn it, know it, live it. Bro. Yeah, it is an internet message board with several conversations going on at once, sort of what a BBS is for....and not everyone reads every thread. I guess you are saying you would not do that, though? DD
I agree. I don't understand why everyone's all over Trevor's nutts.. Dude couldn't shoot or dribble and demanded a starting role. If anything, Cbud will become an allstar before Ariza..
That's what I don't understand from some posters...that Bud isn't this, won't be that, will never be ______. If all players were judged on thier first year alone, we'd have very few All-Stars. Ariza's been in the league for what, 5 years? It's a lot easier to predict what he'll become since we've seen him for a large sample. I'm confident when I say he'll never be an All-Star. Other than being a decent spot-up shooter and a plus defender, he doesn't bring a whole lot else to the table nor has he shown the willingness or ability to polish the other parts of his game. He still is what he was when he came into the league.
I don't get all this Ariza hate. I guess there is a long list of former Rockets players, that as soon as they are gone....people say things like, good...he sucks. Particularly from a couple of users, over and over. Yep.
You can view my posts all year, I have consistently not liked the guy, from the jump. So......so.....SOOOOOO glad he is gone. I just didn't like him because he sucks at basketball. DD
I don't give two ****s for one on one comparisons, different roles, different teams etc... All I care about is the Rockets have the better TEAM year. And that is a guarantee. DD
man morey and adelman brainwashed this guy thinking he can be an all-star. you have to learn how to dribble, create off the dribble, and shoot off the dribble to be an all-star. and you don't learn those things 3-4 years into your NBA career.
true as for ariza i dont see how him saying this makes him a clown the guy is just trying to instill confidence in himself thats all. now realistically i doubt he ever becomes an all-star but i dont see how saying he is going to try to be one should ever be seen as a bad thing. the ariza hate has gone overboard imo ... the guy was signed to a reasonable contract considering his skill set and past experience and youth and athleticism. it just didnt work out here and Morey was able to move him for another player that has the same sort of positive qualities on a much smaller contract. I am not happy he is gone but if the team is better for it by all means make the trade. Hell if Yao was traded for players that went on to win 60+ and a championship I wouldnt mind at all. I'm attached to the Rockets and of course steve novak :grin: (but even with steve i wasnt pissed he left i still root for him on the clippers and hope he gets signed soon)
Let me edumactate you for truth and posterity..... Steeeeriiiiiikkkkkkke one ! 100% spot on die hard right about him. I said that Rafer sucked and the team was going nowhere and JVG should play him to see if he was part of the future. Somehow, people lose that context over time, can't help the morans. Steeeeeriiiiiikkkkkkkk two !!! I said, the guy was a nice young player, and if the team could sign him up on the cheap, but not more than 2 or 3 million tops they should try to do it. And he got a better offer in Greece and took it, then had an injured back, otherwise...MOREY... was going to sign him. 100% spot on and accurate as almost always. (sorta...mostly, sometimes..well occassionally) STEEERRIIIIIIIIKEEEE Three coming !!!! Cbud is so good they traded away a starting SF to clear room for him to play more. Only for people who look at things in a casual sports fan or shallow manner, for those that understand nuance and context, they know where to get the truth.... DD - all others are just wannabeesss, who are jealous of my prognostication....and before anyone brings up Langhi......that was me having a bit of fun going over the top, as I had been accused of doing....and still do today.... WOOT :grin:
Hey, Captain suck up ! Everyone knows that you can't vote against your boy Ariza because he went to your school. Come on now.... And yes, I am having fun in this thread...it is a good day, the Rockets have jettisoned a guy who doesn't fit. DD
Try to understand context before posting. Kobe came straight out of high school while Budinger had 3 years of college to polish his game. In their rookie years, Kobe averaged 15 mpg while Budinger averaged 20 mpg. A rookie Kobe had infinitely more potential than a rookie Chase.
Did ya see the post where I explained it is not a direct comparison? Did you read where I said it is only meant to show you don't judge a player after only their rookie seasons? Nope, guess not. The context it is meant in is listed above, not that he will become Kobe, but that he was only a rookie. But, I will not be surprised when you try to make it about something that it is not. Hey.....BROOKS...pass Yao the ball !!!...pssssttt...it will be the wings that make the entry pass...... ROFLMAO ! DD
