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Trayvon Martin

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Rocket River, Mar 10, 2012.

  1. giddyup

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    You can question anyone's words but in the context of talking about the events of that terrible night, you just up and called Zimmerman "a liar."

    That goes way beyond questioning his words. The only holes in Zimmerman's narrative are the ones that the haters recklessly poke right through it. His story has not varied. He passed a lie detector test, the value of which has reasonable doubt.
     
  2. QdoubleA

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    There are tons of holes in his narrative, and key points of his story have varied. Watch the video edwardc posted on page 305 and it shows him contradicting himself.
     
  3. giddyup

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    Is there a link that is not a cut-up?
     
  4. Refman

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    Confront can have several different meanings. If GZ believes it to mean starting a physical confrontation, then he could pass the lie detector. If he read it to mean creating a situation likely to result in a physical confrontation, he could be in some trouble.
     
  5. QdoubleA

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    Not that I know of, but I don't believe those clips can be viewed as "out of context" since you hear the question asked before he answers during the majority of the tape.
     
  6. CometsWin

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    You should be a lawyer. Your honor, he potentially misled you. He didn't intentionally lie about it when you asked him for his assets. This proves nothing!
     
  7. J.R.

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    'Judge sets June (10, 2013) start date for George Zimmerman trial'

    Zimmerman was back in court today.


    Some tweets below from the hearing:
    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23GeorgeZimmerman">#GeorgeZimmerman</a> has arrived, and appears to have gained some weight. Photo via @<a href="https://twitter.com/renestutzman">renestutzman</a>: <a href="http://t.co/QRj3QRU5" title="http://twitter.com/JeffWeinerOS/status/259340158367854592/photo/1">twitter.com/JeffWeinerOS/s…</a></p>&mdash; Jeff Weiner (@JeffWeinerOS) <a href="https://twitter.com/JeffWeinerOS/status/259340158367854592" data-datetime="2012-10-19T17:08:07+00:00">October 19, 2012</a></blockquote>
    <script src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23GeorgeZimmerman">#GeorgeZimmerman</a> hearing begins with state's request to seal subpoenas. Live stream: <a href="http://t.co/xrKxUf2Z" title="http://thesent.nl/S2nWgA">thesent.nl/S2nWgA</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23TrayvonMartin">#TrayvonMartin</a></p>&mdash; Jeff Weiner (@JeffWeinerOS) <a href="https://twitter.com/JeffWeinerOS/status/259345723311677440" data-datetime="2012-10-19T17:30:13+00:00">October 19, 2012</a></blockquote>
    <script src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Prosecutor says <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23GeorgeZimmerman">#GeorgeZimmerman</a> tried to stop records from getting out. "Same thing should apply to the school records of <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23TrayvonMartin">#TrayvonMartin</a>."</p>&mdash; Jeff Weiner (@JeffWeinerOS) <a href="https://twitter.com/JeffWeinerOS/status/259347313439416320" data-datetime="2012-10-19T17:36:32+00:00">October 19, 2012</a></blockquote>
    <script src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>O'Mara says a blanket order sealing subpoenas would be a "slippery slope." Twitter's terms of use specify not private. <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23GeorgeZimmerman">#GeorgeZimmerman</a></p>&mdash; Jeff Weiner (@JeffWeinerOS) <a href="https://twitter.com/JeffWeinerOS/status/259348387239964672" data-datetime="2012-10-19T17:40:48+00:00">October 19, 2012</a></blockquote>
    <script src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Judge says her court is open to the public, will stay that way. Will consider reviewing specific evidence privately. <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23GeorgeZimmerman">#GeorgeZimmerman</a></p>&mdash; Jeff Weiner (@JeffWeinerOS) <a href="https://twitter.com/JeffWeinerOS/status/259348574435946496" data-datetime="2012-10-19T17:41:33+00:00">October 19, 2012</a></blockquote>
    <script src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Judge says she doesn't follow the media, had to ask <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23GeorgeZimmerman">#GeorgeZimmerman</a>'s lawyer if he's pursuing self-defense. <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23TrayvonMartin">#TrayvonMartin</a></p>&mdash; Jeff Weiner (@JeffWeinerOS) <a href="https://twitter.com/JeffWeinerOS/status/259349159432298496" data-datetime="2012-10-19T17:43:52+00:00">October 19, 2012</a></blockquote>
    <script src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Judge grants <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23GeorgeZimmerman">#GeorgeZimmerman</a> request for <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23TrayvonMartin">#TrayvonMartin</a>'s school records: "I think that you're entitled to those records."</p>&mdash; Jeff Weiner (@JeffWeinerOS) <a href="https://twitter.com/JeffWeinerOS/status/259349440521981952" data-datetime="2012-10-19T17:44:59+00:00">October 19, 2012</a></blockquote>
    <script src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>O'Mara now arguing caselaw, trying to get <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23TrayvonMartin">#TrayvonMartin</a> social media records. Also cites Twitter terms of use. <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23GEorgeZImmerman">#GEorgeZImmerman</a></p>&mdash; Jeff Weiner (@JeffWeinerOS) <a href="https://twitter.com/JeffWeinerOS/status/259351097095880704" data-datetime="2012-10-19T17:51:34+00:00">October 19, 2012</a></blockquote>
    <script src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>O'Mara says he's found enough tweets to show judge that social media records are relevant. Wants all. <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23GeorgeZimmerman">#GeorgeZimmerman</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23TrayvonMartin">#TrayvonMartin</a></p>&mdash; Jeff Weiner (@JeffWeinerOS) <a href="https://twitter.com/JeffWeinerOS/status/259351920110604288" data-datetime="2012-10-19T17:54:50+00:00">October 19, 2012</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>O'Mara: "The issue in this case is who did what during those couple of minutes that we don’t know what happened." <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23GeorgeZimmerman">#GeorgeZimmerman</a></p>&mdash; Jeff Weiner (@JeffWeinerOS) <a href="https://twitter.com/JeffWeinerOS/status/259352455253471233" data-datetime="2012-10-19T17:56:58+00:00">October 19, 2012</a></blockquote>
    <script src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23GeorgeZimmerman">#GeorgeZimmerman</a> lawyer acknowledges it "sounds horrible" to go after <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23TrayvonMartin">#TrayvonMartin</a>'s reputation, but is necessary.</p>&mdash; Jeff Weiner (@JeffWeinerOS) <a href="https://twitter.com/JeffWeinerOS/status/259352743339241473" data-datetime="2012-10-19T17:58:07+00:00">October 19, 2012</a></blockquote>
    <script src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23GeorgeZimmerman">#GeorgeZimmerman</a> judge grants subpoenas for <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23TrayvonMartin">#TrayvonMartin</a>'s social media.</p>&mdash; Jeff Weiner (@JeffWeinerOS) <a href="https://twitter.com/JeffWeinerOS/status/259353283305549824" data-datetime="2012-10-19T18:00:15+00:00">October 19, 2012</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>O'Mara now arguing for tweets from <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23TrayvonMartin">#TrayvonMartin</a>'s girlfriend. Suggests tweets he found indicate she has been untruthful. <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23GeorgeZimmerman">#GeorgeZimmerman</a></p>&mdash; Jeff Weiner (@JeffWeinerOS) <a href="https://twitter.com/JeffWeinerOS/status/259354087001300992" data-datetime="2012-10-19T18:03:27+00:00">October 19, 2012</a></blockquote>
    <script src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>She said she was grief-stricken, missed school after shooting. O'Mara suggests tweets indicate otherwise. <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23TrayvonMartin">#TrayvonMartin</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23GeorgeZimmerman">#GeorgeZimmerman</a></p>&mdash; Jeff Weiner (@JeffWeinerOS) <a href="https://twitter.com/JeffWeinerOS/status/259354374856388608" data-datetime="2012-10-19T18:04:36+00:00">October 19, 2012</a></blockquote>
    <script src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23GeorgeZimmerman">#GeorgeZimmerman</a> judge grants request for <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23TrayvonMartin">#TrayvonMartin</a>'s girlfriend's tweets.</p>&mdash; Jeff Weiner (@JeffWeinerOS) <a href="https://twitter.com/JeffWeinerOS/status/259354710593650688" data-datetime="2012-10-19T18:05:56+00:00">October 19, 2012</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23GeorgeZimmerman">#GeorgeZimmerman</a> judge grants state request for his medical records. Like Trayvon's school docs, will stay private. <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23TrayvonMartin">#TrayvonMartin</a></p>&mdash; Jeff Weiner (@JeffWeinerOS) <a href="https://twitter.com/JeffWeinerOS/status/259355834440613888" data-datetime="2012-10-19T18:10:24+00:00">October 19, 2012</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>They're now arguing about cell phone photos of <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23GeorgeZimmerman">#GeorgeZimmerman</a>'s injuries. Defense wants better copies. <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23TrayvonMartin">#TrayvonMartin</a></p>&mdash; Jeff Weiner (@JeffWeinerOS) <a href="https://twitter.com/JeffWeinerOS/status/259357955495972864" data-datetime="2012-10-19T18:18:49+00:00">October 19, 2012</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>O'Mara wants more info on <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23GeorgeZimmerman">#GeorgeZimmerman</a> witnesses. Prosecutor says he's trying to balance access w/safety. <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23TrayvonMartin">#TrayvonMartin</a></p>&mdash; Jeff Weiner (@JeffWeinerOS) <a href="https://twitter.com/JeffWeinerOS/status/259359369198718977" data-datetime="2012-10-19T18:24:26+00:00">October 19, 2012</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23GeorgeZimmerman">#GeorgeZimmerman</a> judge says state will arrange witness depositions for the defense, to avoid publicizing names &amp; addresses. <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23TrayvonMartin">#TrayvonMartin</a></p>&mdash; Jeff Weiner (@JeffWeinerOS) <a href="https://twitter.com/JeffWeinerOS/status/259360649476460544" data-datetime="2012-10-19T18:29:32+00:00">October 19, 2012</a></blockquote>
    <script src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23GeorgeZimmerman">#GeorgeZimmerman</a> defense now talking about interview by Crump of <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23TrayvonMartin">#TrayvonMartin</a>'s girlfriend. Audio is difficult to understand.</p>&mdash; Jeff Weiner (@JeffWeinerOS) <a href="https://twitter.com/JeffWeinerOS/status/259361711293861888" data-datetime="2012-10-19T18:33:45+00:00">October 19, 2012</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23TrayvonMartin">#TrayvonMartin</a> family lawyer Ben Crump now addressing judge at <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23GeorgeZimmerman">#GeorgeZimmerman</a> hearing.</p>&mdash; Jeff Weiner (@JeffWeinerOS) <a href="https://twitter.com/JeffWeinerOS/status/259362368776200193" data-datetime="2012-10-19T18:36:22+00:00">October 19, 2012</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Crump says <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23TrayvonMartin">#TrayvonMartin</a>'s family will cooperate with state &amp; <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23GeorgeZimmerman">#GeorgeZimmerman</a> defense, try to get a better copy of gf's interview.</p>&mdash; Jeff Weiner (@JeffWeinerOS) <a href="https://twitter.com/JeffWeinerOS/status/259362766832406528" data-datetime="2012-10-19T18:37:56+00:00">October 19, 2012</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Lawyers now discussing an emergency motion, apparently involving sequestration for witness depositions. <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23TrayvonMartin">#TrayvonMartin</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23GeorgeZimmerman">#GeorgeZimmerman</a></p>&mdash; Jeff Weiner (@JeffWeinerOS) <a href="https://twitter.com/JeffWeinerOS/status/259365476734488576" data-datetime="2012-10-19T18:48:43+00:00">October 19, 2012</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>State does not want public/media to see <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23GeorgeZimmerman">#GeorgeZimmerman</a>'s emergency motion. Asks judge to seal it until state responds. <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23TrayvonMartin">#TrayvonMartin</a></p>&mdash; Jeff Weiner (@JeffWeinerOS) <a href="https://twitter.com/JeffWeinerOS/status/259366001060216833" data-datetime="2012-10-19T18:50:48+00:00">October 19, 2012</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>O'Mara wants judge to order "nobody" talk to witnesses before their depositions. Judge says she may not have authority .<a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23GeorgeZimmerman">#GeorgeZimmerman</a></p>&mdash; Jeff Weiner (@JeffWeinerOS) <a href="https://twitter.com/JeffWeinerOS/status/259366388702015489" data-datetime="2012-10-19T18:52:20+00:00">October 19, 2012</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>O'Mara basically invited media lawyers to argue to see this motion. Judge says it won't be sealed. Should be interesting. <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23GeorgeZimmerman">#GeorgeZimmerman</a></p>&mdash; Jeff Weiner (@JeffWeinerOS) <a href="https://twitter.com/JeffWeinerOS/status/259366714297446400" data-datetime="2012-10-19T18:53:38+00:00">October 19, 2012</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Judge set an Oct. 26 hearing on gag order motion, emergency order motion, whatever else's pending. <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23GeorgeZimmerman">#GeorgeZimmerman</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23TrayvonMartin">#TrayvonMartin</a></p>&mdash; Jeff Weiner (@JeffWeinerOS) <a href="https://twitter.com/JeffWeinerOS/status/259367323008393216" data-datetime="2012-10-19T18:56:03+00:00">October 19, 2012</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Judge calls up gag order motion, <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23GeorgeZimmerman">#GeorgeZimmerman</a> defense says it's not prepared. State agrees to put on 10/26 hearing. <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23TrayvonMartin">#TrayvonMartin</a></p>&mdash; Jeff Weiner (@JeffWeinerOS) <a href="https://twitter.com/JeffWeinerOS/status/259368449174827010" data-datetime="2012-10-19T19:00:31+00:00">October 19, 2012</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Mystery <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23GeorgeZimmerman">#GeorgeZimmerman</a> protective order: Sanford cop says other cops were surprised Serino recommended manslaughter charge. <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23TrayvonMartin">#TrayvonMartin</a></p>&mdash; Jeff Weiner (@JeffWeinerOS) <a href="https://twitter.com/JeffWeinerOS/status/259373151379681280" data-datetime="2012-10-19T19:19:12+00:00">October 19, 2012</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>And I should have said "motion for protective order"</p>&mdash; Jeff Weiner (@JeffWeinerOS) <a href="https://twitter.com/JeffWeinerOS/status/259373300617207808" data-datetime="2012-10-19T19:19:48+00:00">October 19, 2012</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>New(ish) info from <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23GeorgeZimmerman">#GeorgeZimmerman</a> motion seems to be SPD cops were surprised detective recommended manslaughter charge. <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23TrayvonMartin">#TrayvonMartin</a></p>&mdash; Jeff Weiner (@JeffWeinerOS) <a href="https://twitter.com/JeffWeinerOS/status/259373897265315840" data-datetime="2012-10-19T19:22:10+00:00">October 19, 2012</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>O'Mara told reporters he thinks there r videos/tweets "out there that suggest he ( <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23TrayyvonMartin">#TrayyvonMartin</a>) involved himself in MMA-style fighting."</p>&mdash; Jeff Weiner (@JeffWeinerOS) <a href="https://twitter.com/JeffWeinerOS/status/259383354636509185" data-datetime="2012-10-19T19:59:45+00:00">October 19, 2012</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Social media records, <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23GeorgeZimmerman">#GeorgeZimmerman</a> lawyer O'Mara said, could speak to a "reputation for violence." (via @<a href="https://twitter.com/renestutzman">renestutzman</a>) <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23TrayvonMartin">#TrayvonMartin</a></p>&mdash; Jeff Weiner (@JeffWeinerOS) <a href="https://twitter.com/JeffWeinerOS/status/259383738868326404" data-datetime="2012-10-19T20:01:17+00:00">October 19, 2012</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Ben Crump: "let us be clear <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23TrayvonMartin">#TrayvonMartin</a> school records are not relevant." <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23TrayvonMartin">#TrayvonMartin</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23GeorgeZimmerman">#GeorgeZimmerman</a></p>&mdash; Daralene Jones (@DaraleneJones) <a href="https://twitter.com/DaraleneJones/status/259313548382052353" data-datetime="2012-10-19T15:22:22+00:00">October 19, 2012</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Ben Crump: "if court decides to release <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23TrayvonMartin">#TrayvonMartin</a> school records we demand they also release <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23GeorgeZimmerman">#GeorgeZimmerman</a> medical records."</p>&mdash; Daralene Jones (@DaraleneJones) <a href="https://twitter.com/DaraleneJones/status/259313759061962752" data-datetime="2012-10-19T15:23:12+00:00">October 19, 2012</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Ben Crump compares asking for <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23TrayvonMartin">#TrayvonMartin</a> school records to digging into a rape victim's past <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23GeorgeZimmerman">#GeorgeZimmerman</a></p>&mdash; Daralene Jones (@DaraleneJones) <a href="https://twitter.com/DaraleneJones/status/259315641452994560" data-datetime="2012-10-19T15:30:41+00:00">October 19, 2012</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23GeorgeZimmerman">#GeorgeZimmerman</a>'s brother says he hasn't talked to him in person...will today @<a href="https://twitter.com/rzimmermanjr">rzimmermanjr</a></p>&mdash; Daralene Jones (@DaraleneJones) <a href="https://twitter.com/DaraleneJones/status/259342042507902976" data-datetime="2012-10-19T17:15:35+00:00">October 19, 2012</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Prosecutors just said its going to be hard to pick a jury in case...Judge says thats another matter for another day. <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23GeorgeZimmerman">#GeorgeZimmerman</a></p>&mdash; Daralene Jones (@DaraleneJones) <a href="https://twitter.com/DaraleneJones/status/259347037303226369" data-datetime="2012-10-19T17:35:26+00:00">October 19, 2012</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Prosecutors: defense should not get <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23TrayvonMartin">#TrayvonMartin</a> school records, twitter, FB, without review. Afraid they will be released to media</p>&mdash; Daralene Jones (@DaraleneJones) <a href="https://twitter.com/DaraleneJones/status/259347218287443968" data-datetime="2012-10-19T17:36:09+00:00">October 19, 2012</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Prosecutor: just took jab @<a href="https://twitter.com/gzlegalcase">gzlegalcase</a> for holding news conferences... <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23GeorgeZimmerman">#GeorgeZimmerman</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23TrayvonMartin">#TrayvonMartin</a></p>&mdash; Daralene Jones (@DaraleneJones) <a href="https://twitter.com/DaraleneJones/status/259347349095186432" data-datetime="2012-10-19T17:36:41+00:00">October 19, 2012</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Defense:we should get school records same as they got my guys school records.... as for twitter/FB--not confidential neway <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23GeorgeZimmerman">#GeorgeZimmerman</a></p>&mdash; Daralene Jones (@DaraleneJones) <a href="https://twitter.com/DaraleneJones/status/259348011820412928" data-datetime="2012-10-19T17:39:19+00:00">October 19, 2012</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Judge: this is an open court, this is public case...we have no intention to close this. .. <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23TrayvonMartin">#TrayvonMartin</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23GeorgeZimmerman">#GeorgeZimmerman</a></p>&mdash; Daralene Jones (@DaraleneJones) <a href="https://twitter.com/DaraleneJones/status/259348340960030720" data-datetime="2012-10-19T17:40:37+00:00">October 19, 2012</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Judge: will abide by original order..which says it's reviewed in chambers first-on 2next motion 4 <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23TrayvonMartin">#TrayvonMartin</a> records <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23GeorgeZimmerman">#GeorgeZimmerman</a></p>&mdash; Daralene Jones (@DaraleneJones) <a href="https://twitter.com/DaraleneJones/status/259349009322369025" data-datetime="2012-10-19T17:43:16+00:00">October 19, 2012</a></blockquote>
    <script src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Judge Nelson: Defense will get <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23TrayvonMartin">#TrayvonMartin</a> school records.</p>&mdash; Daralene Jones (@DaraleneJones) <a href="https://twitter.com/DaraleneJones/status/259349384444121088" data-datetime="2012-10-19T17:44:46+00:00">October 19, 2012</a></blockquote>
    <script src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Judge Nelson: says case law supports that <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23TrayvonMartin">#TrayvonMartin</a> school records could reveal history of whether he has history of being aggressive</p>&mdash; Daralene Jones (@DaraleneJones) <a href="https://twitter.com/DaraleneJones/status/259350557536436224" data-datetime="2012-10-19T17:49:26+00:00">October 19, 2012</a></blockquote>
    <script src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23GeorgeZimmerman">#GeorgeZimmerman</a> attorney says..suspicious that <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23TrayvonMartin">#TrayvonMartin</a> FB/Twitter accounts taken down as he argues to get access</p>&mdash; Daralene Jones (@DaraleneJones) <a href="https://twitter.com/DaraleneJones/status/259351731861876736" data-datetime="2012-10-19T17:54:06+00:00">October 19, 2012</a></blockquote>
    <script src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23GeorgeZimmerman">#GeorgeZimmerman</a> attorney says he has 'screen grabs' of social media accounts, but can't authenticate it --needs real access <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23TrayvonMartin">#TrayvonMartin</a></p>&mdash; Daralene Jones (@DaraleneJones) <a href="https://twitter.com/DaraleneJones/status/259351953237217281" data-datetime="2012-10-19T17:54:58+00:00">October 19, 2012</a></blockquote>
    <script src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23GeorgeZimmerman">#GeorgeZimmerman</a>'s attorney says 6th amendment says they must go after <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23TrayvonMartin">#TrayvonMartin</a>'s reputation as part of defense for GZ</p>&mdash; Daralene Jones (@DaraleneJones) <a href="https://twitter.com/DaraleneJones/status/259352681968185344" data-datetime="2012-10-19T17:57:52+00:00">October 19, 2012</a></blockquote>
    <script src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23GeorgeZimmerman">#GeorgeZimmerman</a> said pics and messages on <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23TrayvonMartin">#TrayvonMartin</a> FB/Twitter, including MMA style fighting =relevant</p>&mdash; Daralene Jones (@DaraleneJones) <a href="https://twitter.com/DaraleneJones/status/259352884389486592" data-datetime="2012-10-19T17:58:40+00:00">October 19, 2012</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Judge: <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23GeorgeZimmerman">#GeorgeZimmerman</a>'s team will get access to<a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23TrayvonMartin">#TrayvonMartin</a> Twitter/Facebook records</p>&mdash; Daralene Jones (@DaraleneJones) <a href="https://twitter.com/DaraleneJones/status/259353319171039233" data-datetime="2012-10-19T18:00:24+00:00">October 19, 2012</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23GeorgeZimmerman">#GeorgeZimmerman</a>'steam also wantsaccess to <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23TrayvonMartin">#TrayvonMartin</a>'s friend's FB/Twitter--she said she was on phone w/him b4 shooting</p>&mdash; Daralene Jones (@DaraleneJones) <a href="https://twitter.com/DaraleneJones/status/259353782037671936" data-datetime="2012-10-19T18:02:14+00:00">October 19, 2012</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23GeorgeZimmerman">#GeorgeZimmerman</a> attorney says Twitter/Facebook records for <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23TrayvonMartin">#TrayvonMartin</a>'s friends will prove she's a liar</p>&mdash; Daralene Jones (@DaraleneJones) <a href="https://twitter.com/DaraleneJones/status/259354036283768833" data-datetime="2012-10-19T18:03:15+00:00">October 19, 2012</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Judge: <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23GeorgeZimmerman">#GeorgeZimmerman</a>'s team will get access to FB/Twitter accounts for <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23TrayvonMartin">#TrayvonMartin</a>'s friend (Witness8)</p>&mdash; Daralene Jones (@DaraleneJones) <a href="https://twitter.com/DaraleneJones/status/259354555211464705" data-datetime="2012-10-19T18:05:19+00:00">October 19, 2012</a></blockquote>
    <script src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23GeorgeZimmerman">#GeorgeZimmerman</a> will also get access to <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23TrayvonMartin">#TrayvonMartin</a> T-Mobile cell phone records</p>&mdash; Daralene Jones (@DaraleneJones) <a href="https://twitter.com/DaraleneJones/status/259354672144457729" data-datetime="2012-10-19T18:05:47+00:00">October 19, 2012</a></blockquote>
    <script src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Prosector: we fill <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23GeorgeZimmerman">#GeorgeZimmerman</a> medical records are relevant, never saw proof he HAD a broken nose, but that he MAY have broken nose</p>&mdash; Daralene Jones (@DaraleneJones) <a href="https://twitter.com/DaraleneJones/status/259354927380430848" data-datetime="2012-10-19T18:06:47+00:00">October 19, 2012</a></blockquote>
    <script src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Defense: we will give up medical records for 30 days prior to <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23TrayvonMartin">#TrayvonMartin</a> shooting and 30 days after <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23GeorgeZimmerman">#GeorgeZimmerman</a></p>&mdash; Daralene Jones (@DaraleneJones) <a href="https://twitter.com/DaraleneJones/status/259355373134311424" data-datetime="2012-10-19T18:08:34+00:00">October 19, 2012</a></blockquote>
    <script src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Judge says: "would you agree to that if I said you can only have FB/Twitter for 30 days before and 30days after... <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23GeorgeZimmerman">#GeorgeZimmerman</a></p>&mdash; Daralene Jones (@DaraleneJones) <a href="https://twitter.com/DaraleneJones/status/259355484103012353" data-datetime="2012-10-19T18:09:00+00:00">October 19, 2012</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Judge: request for medical records is granted. she will review in camera alone, then issue order which should be produced <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23GeorgeZimmerman">#GeorgeZimmerman</a></p>&mdash; Daralene Jones (@DaraleneJones) <a href="https://twitter.com/DaraleneJones/status/259355791574847488" data-datetime="2012-10-19T18:10:13+00:00">October 19, 2012</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Judge: handing over a CD with full testimony of Witness 9-- <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23GeorgeZimmerman">#GeorgeZimmerman</a>. This judge is no nonsense</p>&mdash; Daralene Jones (@DaraleneJones) <a href="https://twitter.com/DaraleneJones/status/259356806864834561" data-datetime="2012-10-19T18:14:16+00:00">October 19, 2012</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Prosecutor arguing <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23GeorgeZimmerman">#GeorgeZimmerman</a>'s attorney should not get access to addresses for witnesses. Worried about their safety <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23TrayvonMartin">#TrayvonMartin</a></p>&mdash; Daralene Jones (@DaraleneJones) <a href="https://twitter.com/DaraleneJones/status/259359389926973440" data-datetime="2012-10-19T18:24:31+00:00">October 19, 2012</a></blockquote>
    <script src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Judge Nelson: this has already been addressed by Judge Lester. He ordered locations sealed in April ruling <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23GeorgeZimmerman">#GeorgeZimmerman</a></p>&mdash; Daralene Jones (@DaraleneJones) <a href="https://twitter.com/DaraleneJones/status/259359636610744320" data-datetime="2012-10-19T18:25:30+00:00">October 19, 2012</a></blockquote>
    <script src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23GeorgeZimmerman">#GeorgeZimmerman</a>'s attorneys are also denied addresses for <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23TrayvonMartin">#TrayvonMartin</a>'s parents</p>&mdash; Daralene Jones (@DaraleneJones) <a href="https://twitter.com/DaraleneJones/status/259361083419131904" data-datetime="2012-10-19T18:31:15+00:00">October 19, 2012</a></blockquote>
    <script src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Defense:questioning how @<a href="https://twitter.com/abcnews">abcnews</a> got access to exclusive interview w/<a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23TrayvonMartin">#TrayvonMartin</a>'s friend who said she was on phone w/him before shooting</p>&mdash; Daralene Jones (@DaraleneJones) <a href="https://twitter.com/DaraleneJones/status/259361318082080768" data-datetime="2012-10-19T18:32:11+00:00">October 19, 2012</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Defense: also questioning chain of custody of that interview that was later turned over to FBI, wants clearer copy <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23GeorgeZimmerman">#GeorgeZimmerman</a></p>&mdash; Daralene Jones (@DaraleneJones) <a href="https://twitter.com/DaraleneJones/status/259361510902599681" data-datetime="2012-10-19T18:32:57+00:00">October 19, 2012</a></blockquote>
    <script src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Prosecutor talking to Ben Crump now who happens to be in court...he will address court NOW!</p>&mdash; Daralene Jones (@DaraleneJones) <a href="https://twitter.com/DaraleneJones/status/259362223976239104" data-datetime="2012-10-19T18:35:47+00:00">October 19, 2012</a></blockquote>
    <script src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Ben Crump confirms what I heard months ago...it WAS done by phone. That's why audio is difficult to understand. <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23GeorgeZimmerman">#GeorgeZimmerman</a></p>&mdash; Daralene Jones (@DaraleneJones) <a href="https://twitter.com/DaraleneJones/status/259362614851801088" data-datetime="2012-10-19T18:37:20+00:00">October 19, 2012</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Judge wants a list of EVERYONE in room during that interview with <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23TrayvonMartin">#TrayvonMartin</a>'s friend. Says if call is on your cell (Crump) do not erase</p>&mdash; Daralene Jones (@DaraleneJones) <a href="https://twitter.com/DaraleneJones/status/259362754845106176" data-datetime="2012-10-19T18:37:54+00:00">October 19, 2012</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Seems Judge will hear argument for gag order in <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23George">#George</a> Zimmerman case October 26 at 1:30 p.m</p>&mdash; Daralene Jones (@DaraleneJones) <a href="https://twitter.com/DaraleneJones/status/259367738051555329" data-datetime="2012-10-19T18:57:42+00:00">October 19, 2012</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>BREAKING: we just got motion just filed by <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23GeorgeZimmerman">#GeorgeZimmerman</a> attorneys seem to suggests that original prosecutor never planned to charge him</p>&mdash; Daralene Jones (@DaraleneJones) <a href="https://twitter.com/DaraleneJones/status/259373107712774144" data-datetime="2012-10-19T19:19:02+00:00">October 19, 2012</a></blockquote>
    <script src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>More: another new motion filed shows <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23GeorgeZimmerman">#GeorgeZimmerman</a> team wants social media records for witnesses in case</p>&mdash; Daralene Jones (@DaraleneJones) <a href="https://twitter.com/DaraleneJones/status/259374080854196224" data-datetime="2012-10-19T19:22:54+00:00">October 19, 2012</a></blockquote>
    <script src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23GeorgeZimmerman">#GeorgeZimmerman</a> attorney says info from cops durn depositionslead him 2 believe chargesare politically motivated <a href="http://t.co/C9ynBrED" title="http://twitter.com/DaraleneJones/status/259379407402176512/photo/1">twitter.com/DaraleneJones/…</a></p>&mdash; Daralene Jones (@DaraleneJones) <a href="https://twitter.com/DaraleneJones/status/259379407402176512" data-datetime="2012-10-19T19:44:04+00:00">October 19, 2012</a></blockquote>
    <script src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>PDF: <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23GeorgeZimmerman">#GeorgeZimmerman</a>'s motion for a protective order <a href="http://t.co/gGdbL4Qn" title="http://bit.ly/S8LFO0">bit.ly/S8LFO0</a> Sgt. "very upset" by manslaughter recommendation. <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23TrayvonMartin">#TrayvonMartin</a></p>&mdash; Jeff Weiner (@JeffWeinerOS) <a href="https://twitter.com/JeffWeinerOS/status/259389949999198208" data-datetime="2012-10-19T20:25:57+00:00">October 19, 2012</a></blockquote>
    <script src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>PDF: State's motion for gag order <a href="http://t.co/gGdbL4Qn" title="http://bit.ly/S8LFO0">bit.ly/S8LFO0</a>State: "case should be tried in the courtroom." <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23GeorgeZimmerman">#GeorgeZimmerman</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23TrayvonMartin">#TrayvonMartin</a></p>&mdash; Jeff Weiner (@JeffWeinerOS) <a href="https://twitter.com/JeffWeinerOS/status/259390290849312770" data-datetime="2012-10-19T20:27:19+00:00">October 19, 2012</a></blockquote>
    <script src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>PDF: State's response to O'Mara's discovery complaints <a href="http://t.co/gqTgoxKt" title="http://bit.ly/S8LRwT">bit.ly/S8LRwT</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23GeorgeZImmerman">#GeorgeZImmerman</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23TrayvonMartin">#TrayvonMartin</a></p>&mdash; Jeff Weiner (@JeffWeinerOS) <a href="https://twitter.com/JeffWeinerOS/status/259390683922714624" data-datetime="2012-10-19T20:28:52+00:00">October 19, 2012</a></blockquote>
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  8. tallanvor

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    Images finally released of Zimmerman's obviously broken nose after being attacked by trayvon martin. Hard to look at that and not think this was a clear cut case of self-defense. Good thing he had a gun to protect himself.

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    doesn't show that any one person initiated the conflict. Not really clear cut case of anything.
     
  10. KingCheetah

    KingCheetah Atomic Playboy
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    I posted that picture in this thread months ago.
     
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    Without the gun, the confrontation most likely would not have occurred and there would be no broken nose, and more importantly, no dead teenager.
     
  12. QdoubleA

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    You can tell who initiated a confrontation by looking at injuries?!? tallanvor how you get so smart??
     
  13. bigtexxx

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    just goes to show how people's initial biases about this case could have changed, given additional facts from the beginning

    Trayvon's legal team controlled the press, and it ultimately led to additional violence from people's minds who were poisoned... criminal
     
  14. mc mark

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    He's a doctor
     
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    Uh oh, the last "doctor" I talked to on clutchfans tried to beat me up, tallnavor don't hurt me bro :(.
     
  16. tallanvor

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    rly? my understanding is the only previously released version was a grainy black and white photo.

    So says the internet

    Another question would be why the defense didn't get the photo until 1 month ago..... (This is according to the defense)
     
  17. rocketsjudoka

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    I agree that is fairly troubling that the prosecution would take so long to give possibly exculpatory evidence to the defense
     
  18. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    I don't know the rules in Florida, but in California you only need to turn over discovery 30 days before trial.
     
  19. BEAT LA

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    First things first, bigtexxx you're a bigot.

    <iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/dEpCnpnHODI" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

    At 5:12 in this video Zimmerman lies to the police officer. He tells the cop, "They said can you get somewhere where you can see him (stuttering like liar)." If he is lying about something this small, chances are you can't believe anything the man says. The dispatcher said DO NOT FOLLOW HIM. It's too bad he is the only one who can fully account for what happened. Regardless, we have other evidence to show this was not self defense.

    I believe this is how it went down. Martin noticed Zimmerman was following/stalking him. Zimmerman even chased him and loaded his gun. Zimmerman found him and the altercation ensued. If anything Martin was the one who acted in self defense. He doesn't know who this man is, or why he is following him. Who knows what Zimmerman said to him. He probably told him he called the cops on him and that he was neighborhood watch captain. Martin beat up Zimmerman and broke his nose. He got him on the ground and Zimmerman ended up with scratches on the back of his head. Martin doesn't get in trouble at this point, so he tries to run off. As he gets up to run away Zimmerman sees that he is trying to get away and pulls out his gun. He begins chasing Martin with a gun. That's when Martin begins crying for help. Martin continues to cry for help and tries hiding somewhere. Zimmerman finds him and shoots him before he could reach for his gun.

    Zimmerman's obviously a racist (he says they always get away to the 911 dispatcher). He was coming down from adderall and he was looking for trouble. He was new to adderall and did not know hot to deal with the mood swings. He should not be "volunteer watch captain" if he has a gun, nor should he own a gun while he was newly prescribed to adderall. People who begin taking amphetamines or similar mood altering drugs should turn in their gun for at least 3 months. Zimmerman went psycho and shot someone who was no longer a threat to him.

    *Putting aside how I'm sure it went down. It is clear the one screaming in the video is not Zimmerman. You can tell by:
    1) His voice is too deep.
    2) The screaming stops right when Martin gets shot.
     
  20. edwardc

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    Man your always quick to say the media is biased no one can tell the media what to print or say they were going off the facts.And the key fact is zimmerman killed this kid for no reason.
     

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