so put in the same situation as zimmerman, lets say you're an off duty neighborhood patrol armed with a gun driving your neighborhood. You see someone wearing a hood walking 7 in the evening. What do you do?
Caretaking = killing and innocent youth? That's what Zimmerman did. Had he followed the dispatcher's advice that wouldn't have happened. There wouldn't have been more or less crime except the possible crime he committed. You have a bizarre definition of caretaking
I really feel sorry for you liberals. I can't wrap my mind around your train of thought. You still refer to him as an innocent youth. Are you trying to get a reaction out of me?
I'm not going to Monday morning quarterback anyone. I've been in situations where a tense, quick decision was made and I know what kind of situation he was in. I know that if I'm in that situation, and I get attacked, I'm going to defend myself.
The "innocent youth" thing went out the window when it was apparent he attacked a man for "following" (not illegal in this case) him.
you're in your truck. what if he doesn't attack you but just walking about. what do you do? do you call 911 or simply follow him?
I make no judgement on right or wrong. My position has always centered on the ability to prosecute the case. What can be proven, what can not. You know, as well as I do, bad guys go free sometimes. Everyone centers on their opinion that Martin was doing nothing wrong, just walking. Well, Zim has the same right to walk, or drive, around the neighborhood. Everyone says Zim should have just let the police handle it. Well, Martin had a cell phone. HE could have called 911 also, to let the police handle it. If TM felt threatened, he could have simply run. No way Zim could have kept up. Not saying he SHOULD have, just that he COULD have. IMO, the option for a confrontation was ENTIRELY in the hands of Martin. Once Zim got out of his car, his ability to confront Martin was gone. From the phone records, we KNOW this happened. Again, the 'Reasonable Man' theory. You have a working cell phone. A stranger is following you. In this day and age, (not 30 years ago, thing have changed in our society) would a reasonable man call 911, or confront the stranger. If the person chooses the confrontation, what does that say about his character, personality, mind set? Everyone talks about Zim being told not to follow. Fine. It appears he did just that, and was returning to his car. Question- What would a 911 operator have recommended to Martin? Would they have told him to turn around and confront the follower? No. They would have told him to keep walking, knock on a neighbors door, or even run home. Again, IMO, Martin did not call 911 because he didn't feel threatened. He wasn't in fear for his life. Some, apparently white guy, was following him, and that ticked him off. His background, and mental makeup, told him that HE could handle the problem. I think the Affidavit that was released was a travesty. I said it when it was released, and prominent legal minds have since agreed. It is based on opinions not supported by the evidence we have seen so far. It ignores other evidence we are aware of. How each of us, as individuals, would have reacted, from either position, is great substance for discussion. Those discussions, however, have no bearing on the case. The case centers on what the prosecution can prove. Based on what has been released, I don't see a guilty verdict happening. Frankly, I don't see enough evidence to warrant an arrest. I'm done with this thread and you liberals.
And it was ok to take on the caretakers roll but he over stepped his bounds by confronting this kid he had made contact with the police that was where he is done as the caretaker.
Not in FL. He has the right to stand his ground. And, as the police report states, was doing nothing illegal.
Then lots of conjecture defending the alleged killer deleted... Well, here we do agree. I am curious why you openly hope that the "bad guy" in this killing goes free though? Somehow I suspect we won't be so fortunate...
theres better ways to protect your community than walking around with a gun looking for trouble take your 19th century beliefs outta here