I already told you. Apartment complexes do not make it easy to find the number. I can go to 5 new complexes today and it would likely take me a few minutes to locate the building number in the dark. Well lit? I don't know about in Florida, but here in Austin well lit means a crap ass light behind a tree. As for my faulty logic. Martin was likely completely innocent here. Even if he started the altercation, he knew he was being followed, if he was to have been the one to have killed Zimmerman, he would have the same claim of self defense, even if he punched Zimmerman first and then took his gun in a struggle. No one is putting any blame on the kid, we know why he was wearing a hoodie, we know why he was close to the buildings, we know why he was walking slowly (he was probably talking to his GF/didn't know the area well). Zimmerman did not know this, he saw someone random, in an area recently hit by crime, and thought it was better to act than to let him slip away. BAD DECISION, I agree with that. As for the dispatcher comment. I don't understand what you are saying. We know Zimmerman at one point was following Martin. We know he was told to stop. We know that he said okay. We don't know if he continued to follow Martin, or if Martin kept walking and he went to look for the building number, or maybe he did continue to pursue at a distance. Maybe he went to look around the corner to see if he was continuing on to another building so he could inform the police. We're all assuming because he walked around the building he was looking to hurt Martin or continue to closely follow him. Couldn't he have just been going to the building to either (a) get the building number, or (b) see if Martin was continuing on to another building? As for the red sweater...I could very well be wrong, but I thought the video I saw he had on like a button down light colored shirt. As for the witnesses. Last I heard those initial witnesses' claims don't pan out and they aren't being considered credible witnesses. The only thing witnessed was the aftermath, the end of the scuffle that resulted in gunshots. Is there another witness I did not hear about? I think the trial comes down to the forensics. If what I gathered from the first 6 seasons of Dexter is true, than they will be able to get a lot out of the clothing, the blood splatter, and all the other little things we don't know about. If the prosecutor has a case than by all means he should be on trial, and if he is guilty, than I hope he is convicted. I just know there are too many ifs/unknowns to know for sure what happened on that night...at this point, or at least as far as we know. I am betting the prosecutors have a great deal more info than we do.
Sorry the bolded parts were what I was agreeing with you. I think this just poor judgement in an accident of circumstance. We will see though.
You are talking about complexes you are unfamiliar with. Zimmerman lived in that development for years and patrolled it frequently as neighborhood watch captain. And yes buildings need to have the address on the front and be lit. I know that because I work in architecture. I haven't done a project in Sanford but I have done work in Florida and I know for a fact that numbers are required to be in the front. ... You are saying what I am saying. Zimmerman was pursuing Martin. I am not presuming he was looking to hurt Martin. As I said I actually believe they misjudged where the other was an actually did run into each other. That said given where the altercation took place, verified by witness reports and the location of Martin's body, Zimmerman wasn't looking around a corner. It seems pretty obvious that at some point he had been in pursuit of Martin on foot, verified by his own 911 call. I can believe that he had stopped pursuit at the moment of encounter but that Zimmerman wasn't pursuing the first place doesn't make sense based on everything else. Here is a still from the video of Zimmerman being brought to the police station. Spoiler As you can see he is wearing a red and black jacket with a grey shirt on. I am not sure what you are arguing here. My argument is that it is unlikely that Zimmerman shot Martin while Martin was in the process of bashing his head in due to the position their bodies in the immediate aftermath. That isn't just based on witnesses but the on scene police report also states seeing Zimmerman standing over Martin. What witness testimony are you discounting? Anyway if you are discounting witness testimony in this regard would you discount witness testimony that claims to see Martin beating Zimmerman which is also questionable due to lack of signs of struggle on Martin's body.
This case will be the reverse OJ. Here OJ will be Martin/Corey and Zimmerman will the OJ prosecution.
Missed the line after video about what he was wearing, a red jacket with a gray shirt. Is that picture clear enough to tell if there is blood? Can you see a 360 view? It certainly would seem like a damning piece of evidence if there is no blood. However, we still need to know the forensics report to know how Martin was shot.
This is complicated by the "fact" that Zimmerman was not on watch duty; he was on his way to the store when he noticed Trayvon.
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My favorite is all the jesse jackson and sheila jackson lee types....I just a chron article and ome of the comments was this Chicago, the home of the Rev. Jackson, just recorded the 118th homicide of the year, a new record. Most of these homicides are young black men and most of the killers are young black men. Why isn't the Rev. Jackson concerned with these tragic killings in his home town? its sad but true.....everyone these days is focusing on trayvon's killing and I just saw an interview with zimmerman's neighbor and he said there were 8 robberies in that neighborhood recently ALL BY BLACKS....black america needs to get with the times the way they dress,act, and speak the MAJORITY of them at least leads us to profile them the way george zimmerman did that day. Yes I know there are many good blacks too, hell our president is black, but wait the part of him that's black, the father abandoned him early and if Im correct he was raised by a white mother and grandmother, so please stop with the he's "black" thing. Obama attended Harvard and did things very few blacks do by get an education and go to a successful post grad career.
After watching Paradise Lost 1,2, and 3 I have seen how easily the media and or police department can influence the minds of the public. This is why I reserve all judgement on this case I do not know what is worse, an innocent man falsely being proven guilty, or a guilty man walking free. I just hope the right decision can be made based on FACTUAL EVIDENCE.
GZ actions directly led to someones death and there is no question about that so whether he gets off or not does not change the fact GZ is guilty of a kid losing his life.
Pretty much going along with Air Langhi, Zimmerman is not innocent. He may be found not guilty, but that doesn't change that he killed somebody that didn't deserve to die that night.
You have just obliterated the Rule of Law. This represents the vigilante mood that has blown this whole thing up.
Jesse Jackson was ASKED to participate in this by the family of the victim Trayvon Martin. You stop with the Obama isn't black thing. When someone looks at him when they perceive him as black. When he walked down the street, into a store, if he were walking in a neighborhood with a hoody, he would be perceived as black. He didn't get into Harvard because of wealth, or connections, but because he worked hard in school to earn his place. He had to get into Harvard against greater odds than some legacy who's parents went there and have wealthy connections etc. Before you go telling people how to act and dress, you might want to think.
Yes, because CONCRETE evidence has been presented by the media to the public. I hated the media before, but this has honestly been the worst I have ssen it, if not almost criminal
Americans are deeply divided by race over the killing of unarmed black teenager Trayvon Martin, with 91 percent of African-Americans saying he was unjustly killed, while just 35 percent of whites thought so, a Reuters/Ipsos poll showed on Thursday. Craziness
Have you considered that he does address those thigns, but doesn't get media coverage for his actions in that regard because they aren't interesting or controversial?
