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Trayvon Martin

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Rocket River, Mar 10, 2012.

  1. Batman Jones

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    OMFG.
     
  2. giddyup

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    When has this scenario ever been suggested by any evidence?
     
  3. giddyup

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    No to your usual eloquence but Yes to your usual profaneness.
     
  4. FranchiseBlade

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    Just like Zimmerman's friend can claim he weighs 170 lbs. said goon instead of coon, and all the other stuff that Zimmerman's pal said, yet you have no problem accepting that. There is also the witness who saw the whole thing, and said Martin wasn't on top of Zimmerman, but that Zimmerman was on top of Martin, and Zimmerman wasn't hurt. That witness knew neither Zimmerman nor Martin, yet you've dismissed that witness.

    Despite all that evidence, you've managed to decide which evidence is reliable and which isn't, and because it hasn't gone the way you were hoping for, justice is done in America and so is Zimmerman?
     
  5. KingCheetah

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    Nice word play genius.
     
  6. gwayneco

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    The New York Tinmes said Zimmerman weighed 170 pounds.\

    There is no witness who "saw the whole thing". Ain't no such animal.
     
  7. mc mark

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    No, there's plenty of other evidence to make that assumption.
     
  8. FranchiseBlade

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    That's not what Martin's gf said. She said she heard someone who she presumes was Zimmerman. Yes on a cell phone you can hear someone come up and start talking to the other person on the cell phone. Maybe you need a new service if you think that's not possible.

    The phone records show Martin on the phone at the time of the confrontation. People sneaking up to ambush a guy, don't talk on the cell phone while doing it. Those records also add some strength to the statements of Martin's gf.

    I don't have an opinion about which testimony is true except what I've seen and heard. I heard the word "coon". I didn't hear the word goon. I saw that Zimmerman was more than 170 lbs the night he killed Martin.

    We have a witness who didn't know Zimmerman or Martin who saw the whole thing and said that Zimmerman wasn't seriously hurt in the fight, and that Zimmerman was on top of Martin not the other way around, and that Martin was the one yelling for help.

    We have video of Zimmerman showing just how unserious any injuries to him were. (you keep acting like that evidence is bad for some reason) We have the fact that paramedics released Zimmerman without getting him in to see a doctor that night.

    We have the fact that Zimmerman was armed, and that Martin wasn't.

    I actually don't know what happened, and I wouldn't care to speculate at this point. I do think that the above is more than enough evidence to arrest the killer of an unarmed teen, and present the available evidence.

    You've already dismissed all of that evidence and decided you know what happened.

    You are entitled to do that, but please don't state your opinion as if that's what happened, or as if it is proven fact. Please don't claim that you aren't biased, and keeping an open mind. You've shown that isn't the case.
     
  9. sammy

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    gwayneco, Texx, Casey etc must all be butt-hurt right about now since their cowboy is in jail finally for murder.
     
  10. pirc1

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    It is interesting to know that wanting a trial for murder is the same as want to lynch someone. I am sure OJ is rolling in hell after his lynching experience now.
     
  11. gwayneco

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    If he gets a fair trial he walks. Of course, he's not going to get a fair trial.
     
  12. FranchiseBlade

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    What a joke. You have appointed yourself the ultimate judge in which evidence is the best, and which evidence carries no weight. So you know that if a trial was fair he'd walk? That's amazing.

    You're definitely entitled to your belief.
     
  13. gwayneco

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    The known evidence simply does not support a conviction in this case.
     
  14. vlaurelio

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    like zimmerman persued treyvon even being told not to?

    and it wasn't zimmerman crying for help before the shot?

    and he did not sustain any serious injuries which were life threatening?
     
  15. FranchiseBlade

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    I think the known evidence supports a trial. I wouldn't presume to know if it was enough for a conviction though. I do know that I don't know enough to say that it wouldn't be a fair trial if he's found guilty. I don't think anyone can at this point.
     
  16. gwayneco

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    You guys got your wish. Mob rule and intimidation has carried the day. And so it goes in Obamastan.
     
  17. FranchiseBlade

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    The wish was that a killer of an unarmed teen that was committing no crime present his case before the court.

    If that's the way it goes in Obamastan, then Obamastan would seem to have a lot going for it.
     
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    You should have added IMO. Unless a video of what happen appears what happened it is all conjecture. Do you know GZ didn't go to martin and say get the bleep out of here bleep. After that martin socked him?
     
  19. trueroxfan

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    Dude. I have repeated myself like 7 times. He claims he got out of the car when the dispatcher asked him to get the building number to meet with the officer. That is his excuse for being out of the car.

    Zimmerman wasn't in his car when he attacked/was attacked. He isn't claiming he was in his car and Martin started beating him. He claims he was attacked when he returning to his car. Just because things took a wrong turn after he got out of his car, doesn't make it illegal for him to get out of his car. It doesn't matter if he is armed. It doesn't matter that he ended up getting in an altercation. He could not foresee those events. His gun was likely tucked away. So IF Martin attacked him, he likely did not know he had a gun. If they were on top of each other, and Martin was smashing his head into the concrete (verified by the EMTs according to Zimmerman), than it is not unreasonable for him to be scared for his life and to reach for the gun. If then Martin tried to stop him, but Zimmerman took this as him going for his gun, he may have shot him in the struggle.

    You people keep acting like it is ridiculous to consider the possibility that he is telling the truth. Which to me proves just how much you have been manipulated by the media's coverage. Otherwise, you would have reviewed the facts and decided for yourself that there is too much to this story that is missing, from BOTH sides.

    You are not escalating a situation by assisting the police. He says he lost sight of Martin when he got out of the car to check the building number.
     
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  20. justtxyank

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    Really think they've overcharged in this case based on what we know. I'm afraid you are going to get a major disaster when he is acquitted of murder 2 and walks when he likely would be found guilty of manslaughter.
     

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