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Trayvon Martin

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Rocket River, Mar 10, 2012.

  1. gwayneco

    gwayneco Contributing Member

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    Move it where exactly? I don't think there is a venue where Zimmerman can get a fair trial.
     
  2. Child_Plz

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    To be fair we are talking about the state that found casey anthony innocent.
     
  3. Nook

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    I have reread the comments of the President concerning Trayvon Martin and do not believe he was biased in his comments when read in their entirety.

    I am however perplexed by the comments of Eric Holder and the deputy secretary... I am not sure what my personal thoughts are.
     
  4. gwayneco

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    Michelle said during that interview, "Let me tell you, the things that's about to happen, to these honkeys, these crackers, these pigs, these pink people, these ---- people. It has been long overdue. My prize right now this evening ... is gonna be the bounty, the arrest, dead or alive, for George Zimmerman. You feel me?"

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  5. gwayneco

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    I am disappointed that Obama has not done more to try to turn down the heated rhetoric coming from some of the Martin supporters. I guess I should not be surprised. He's a divider, not a uniter.
     
  6. gwayneco

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    Yeah, but there was no racial component to that. No Al Sharpton, no New Black Panthers, etc.
     
  7. Nook

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    The further from the epicenter the less people tend to be emotionally invested. Further, the attorneys and Judge will have the right to disqualify jurors that are biased... Zimmerman is not the first high profile defendant, the whole nation knew the OJ situation and the Casey Anthony charges... In both cases the media had them as cold blooded murderers and in both cases the jury returned a non guilty verdict.

    Look, I share your concern... He'll look at the jurors in the Emmett Till case, but if Zimmerman's attorney screens the jury well, he can get a fair trial... Further, we don't know the trial Judges feelings, he has a great deal of say in juror selection.
     
  8. Nook

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    She has no credibility ... None... Having said that, I guess she didn't get the memo on Zimmerman's ethnicity...
     
  9. gwayneco

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    You are more optimistic than I am. I generally do have faith in the system, but this is a crazy atmosphere.
     
  10. Rocket River

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    White Privilege need never be acknowledged . . . so that means it doesn't happen, right?

    There is a racial component .. . it is the unsaid fact that if you white you get more justice than if you are not white.

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    If you are rich you can get a peice of that privilege
     
  11. gwayneco

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    Isn't jury selection going to be a b**** for Zimmerman's defense team? I'm sure any polling data is going to show that blacks are much more likely to think Zimmerman's guilty. How can the defense team deal with that issue ethically and constitutionally?
     
  12. Nook

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    Yes, but there is a flip side... How is the DA going to deal with older conservative whites that are more likely to think that Zimmerman acted in self defense. Remember there are more whites and hispanics in a random jury pool than blacks.

    Further Zimmerman's defense team cannot disqualify a juror only because they are black, but they can disqualify blacks for reasons other than them simply being black.
     
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    lol bringin up the constitution....

    Quite paradoxical that without media attention, Zimmerman would never have been charged in the first place and his defenders would stick to the innocence through ignorance card.

    This bull**** never ends.
     
  14. Nook

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    The logic train derails AGAIN.. They were actively investigating PRIOR to the media getting involved, so to say he never would have been charged is simply a huge assumption... But whatever, the truth is irrelevant when you decide to create your own narrative.
     
  15. gwayneco

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    Can the DA exclude whites for being white? I would assume not, but one never knows for sure in these matters.
     
  16. Invisible Fan

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    Not sure what you mean by actively investigating.

    It took more than two weeks to investigate before media attention spiked.
     
  17. Nook

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    No, they cannot.
     
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    Two weeks is not very long to investigate prior to charging someone with second degree murder, especially you are dealing with a claim of self defense promulgated by statute.
     
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    WORD.

    I'm pretty sure that Special Prosecutors are political animals.
     
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    Have you considered that I find that testimony unconvincing or not even the testimony that you are imagining..... like Trayvon's girlfriend saying she "heard" GZ approaching Martin-- just not possible to hear that! There are no compass apps on cell phone calls.

    What is so compelling about phone records that point to GZ's guilty? YOu keep bringing it up....

    What is the physical evidence that you are touting? The lack of a bashed skull to verify GZ's story?

    We all have an opinion about this and I have this propensity to run to the aid of people who are being lynched. :grin:
     

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