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  1. AroundTheWorld

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    These people should stay away from children, period.
     
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  2. FranchiseBlade

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    Why?
     
  3. AroundTheWorld

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    Here is an article about how this weird phenomenon has spread to Thailand and how parents are unhappy about this.

    https://reneseifert.substack.com/p/go-woke-foreign-political-agenda

    Go Woke: Foreign Political Agenda enters International Schools in Thailand

    The introduction of of Diversity, Equity and Inclusion (DEI) is not as harmless as it sounds. It is rather the import of wokeness, a radical political agenda from the U.S. into the curriculum.

    Do you as parents have the impression that something has recently been off at your child's international school? When you kiss your son or daughter goodbye in the morning and see them walking through the turnstiles, you wish for nothing more than for them to be safe and taught things that you had signed up for - as they were broadly aligned with your personal values. Yet your gut is telling you that neither is entirely the case?

    Some indicators of this sudden transformation:

    • Newsletters from the school fail to address any actual problem, but claim that the new core values of the school going forward will be "Diversity, Equity & Inclusion" (DEI), often combined with "Anti-Racism".

    • Pretty much all communication contains these new terms, whereas the entire language sounds as if it was taken from a communist propaganda book.

    • A faceless committee is installed, which seems to make nobody accountable but is becoming the agent of the action to push a new ideology on your child.

    • The school leadership does not provide a reasonable explanation in plain English, let alone any open dialogue. If questioned, parents are treated as petulant pupils with repetitive gibberish who are simply not getting the lesson.

    • A radical trans activist with a tarnished reputation from the US is flown in on the school budget to be paraded in front of elementary students. There is an irony to it that Thailand is tremendously tolerant to trans people, as I had written in this previous post, yet this doesn’t suffice to provide a suitable living example of "diversity" or "inclusion". Pick your buzzword.

    • The school library looks like a 24/7/365 gay pride with rainbow and trans flags all over the place.

    • There is a sudden division between a formerly intact school community, between a loud minority which is of the opinion that there must be no alternative to this path and a reticent majority which feels uneasy.
    If you believe that you are part of the latter, you are not alone: welcome to the brave new world where an international school in Thailand is no longer a neutral place where reading, writing, mathematics, and critical thinking seem to occupy the key priorities of the school leadership, which predominantly hails from the US or Canada.

    Instead, you and your child have suddenly and unwillingly embarked on the latest cultural export from North America called "wokeness". The Malaysian political commentator Ian Miles Cheong pushes through the smoke screen of friendly sounding DEI-jargon by coming up with this apt definition and it’s ugly consequences instead:

    "Wokeness is by far the most damaging export the US has ever produced. A cultural product of the Bay Area, liberal arts colleges, and social media, wokeness divides communities and brings to the fore ugly social fractures in the form of oppressions—racial, cultural, religious, ethnic and so on. Through wokeness, everyone has a place on the progressive stack. It creates a demand for equity both real and imagined—and with that demand comes calls for reparations, affirmative action, race quotas, criminal justice reforms, police abolition, race riots and reckonings etc. Wokeness strips individuals of agency and makes them bodies classified by whatever labels you stick put on them, simultaneously removing them of any personal responsibility. Just as victims of historical violence are given reparations for the station they inherit, criminals go free and are not punished for their actions—they’re products of society with no agency, after all. Wokeness is a mind virus that devours and erodes everything it touches—from the societal level down to the individual person, and it turns them into carriers for which to spread the disease."

    You might be taken aback: what does this US political theatre have to do on the campus of an international school in Thailand? Exactly. Unfortunately, this obvious argument doesn't count when it comes to fulfilling both the universal and global claims of this uncompromising political agenda.

    For today, I would like to leave you with this letter from a father to his daughter's school in New York, which has taken wokeness to its logical extreme, turning any regular school operation into a complete travesty. I encourage you to read this piece in full, as it unfortunately shows the direction in which this very agenda is taking your child's international school. You might get a sense what the colloquial term “go woke, go broke” in practise means.

    https://www.thefp.com/p/you-have-to...bstack&utm_campaign=post_embed&utm_medium=web

    Myself, together with many concerned parents, are dismayed to see this unnecessary development happen and clearly prefer an international school stand on a foundation of solid values while remaining politically neutral. Therefore, I will continue to raise awareness of the true nature of DEI (diversity, equity, and inclusion) a.k.a. "wokeness," and provide you with the tools to successfully counter the systematic stonewalling tactics of a school's leadership on transparently dealing with its agenda.
     
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  4. AroundTheWorld

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    And another one from the same author.

    The Hijacking of Language: Woke DEI penetrating International Schools in Thailand
    Language matters, especially from educators. It is a disgrace when those supposed to teach our kids are abusing innocuous words to drive their foreign political ideology.

    How does this sentence sound to you?

    We hold ourselves accountable for creating inclusive, diverse, equitable, and anti-racist learning environments for all community members.

    The purposeful technocratic tone aside, it might appear as a pleasing commonplace where everybody who isn’t a complete jerk would politely nod in agreement to establish common ground and move on from there. However, in reality, this is a trick used by the communicator to lull you into their world while simultaneously shutting down any opposing viewpoints. Or worse, to justify any transgressions of the commonly accepted standards thus far - what's right versus wrong, what's virtuous versus sinful, what safeguards children versus what exposes them to harm.

    Pretty much like that...


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    … to which anybody based in truth would respond:

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    If you haven't read George Orwell's book 1984, I can wholeheartedly recommend it to you, as it will greatly help you see through the smoke screen set up by educational magicians to distract you while they perform their well rehearsed tricks on "all community members."

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    The key to this trick is taking the shell of an inconspicuous term, in the same way that a virus operates on a healthy cell, injecting it with its own RNA. In both cases, the core concept is manipulation - manipulation of language and manipulation of biological processes. In 1984, the ruling party manipulates language to control people's thoughts and behaviours. Similarly, the RNA of a virus can hijack a healthy cell's biological processes to create copies of itself and spread its infection. Let's apply this to our starting quote and see what it truly means:

    • Diversity is Uniformity.
    • Equity is Marxism.
    • Inclusion is Carte Blanche.
    • Anti-Racism is Racism.
    You might rub your eyes, as if waking from a bad dream, and find yourself in the midst of the cold civil war raging in the US and Canada, being imported right onto the campus of your offspring's international school in Thailand. Unless you are part of that particular radical faction from North America, you might wish for nothing less than to be spared from this latest cultural colonisation product, summarily called "Wokeness."

    It's worth considering the views of arguably the world's greatest inventor, engineer, and entrepreneur of our lifetime, Elon Musk, whose obsession with objective truth will mean the difference between one of his SpaceX rockets flying (iteratively) or consistently exploding on the launchpad.

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    "Diversity", injected with the viral load of wokeness, allows individuals to be defined solely by their race, gender, or other constructed identities. These identities are only permissible as long as they are part of the Uniformity from the woke playbook. This approach prioritizes surface-level differences over meaningful diversity of thought and perspective. To make it practical, have you ever seen the curriculum of your favourite international school in Thailand celebrating "Women's Day" through the lens of J.K. Rowling, Ayn Rand, or Margaret Thatcher? Or having a nuanced discussion about the radical trans agenda by allowing valid counter-arguments from a balanced group called “Gays against Groomers” to the debate?

    "Equity" is substantially different from "equality" in that its RNA-hijacking mode promotes reverse discrimination by undermining the principle of treating everyone equally, regardless of their background or identity. This leads to a victim culture where people are encouraged to see themselves primarily as subjects of systemic oppression, rather than as individuals with agency and responsibility. The only way out is a race to the bottom by applying the core principle of Marxism and lowering standards for everybody to achieve equitable outcomes. To make it practical, have you heard the headmaster of your favourite international school in Thailand recently talk about "promoting excellence"?

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    "Inclusion", for one, reveals the intellectually weak but propagandistic strong undercurrent of wokeness as a whole. It is closely tied to "diversity", which breaks the principle of "MECE" (Mutually Exclusive, Collectively Exhaustive) in such a brief enumeration that should aim for brevity instead of jargon. Secondly, the term, in its traditional sense, was intended to include students of different physical and mental abilities, where a combination of practiced compassion and the overcoming of objective hardships would lead to a genuinely enriching experience for everyone. Unfortunately, the woke-infected version of "inclusion" is meant to serve as a Carte Blanche to introduce all sorts of degeneracies to become an integral part of the curriculum. For example, inviting a radical trans activist book author from the US to read to elementary students (of course, about transgenderism) who has a background in adult gay pornographic prose between elder men and "boys" (of legal age) and who boasts on his Twitter account about his and his boyfriend's kinky sexual preferences. (For the record, in our case, several amicable attempts to stop this event in a dialogue with the school leadership were rejected by the same application of manipulative language until a formal complaint to the board had the head of school overruled.) Or to make it practical: when have you heard the headmaster of your favourite international school in Thailand say recently, "We hold ourselves accountable for being transparent in our intentions and honest in our measures of accomplishing them, even more so when we commit errors along the way, which we will correct"?

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    "Anti-Racism" is perhaps the most distorted and virally infected term of all. It differs fundamentally from simply being "non-racist" by treating everyone with respect as an equal child of God - or, if you don't believe in God, as being equal to yourself. It requires much more, as there comes the ultra-manipulation: You have to actively commit to and partake in performative actions based on the agenda of "anti-racism," which includes actions like "educate yourself on the history of racism," "reflect on your own biases," or "vote and advocate for anti-racist policies," to name a few. In the warped logic of their definition, Racism can only exist as a one-way street that cascades from lighter colours down to darker ones, which determines the "pyramid of oppression." According to the cultural marxist playbook, this pyramid urgently needs to be turned around 180 degrees to make amends for the sins of the past.

    By no means I would like to make the case that racism doesn’t exist and wherever it occurs needs to be rooted out. Yet one should take into consideration that the environment in an international school in Bangkok is dramatically different from e.g. one in West Garfield Park, Chicago (IL), USA which subsequently requires a different set of policies to maintain a harmonious campus culture. The totalitarian aspect of “anti-racism” eventually comes to light that the absence of committing wholesale to this agenda will make you automatically a racist. Or to make it practical: When have you heard the headmaster of your favourite international school in Thailand recently say “We regret to have organized an ECA (extracurricular activity) offer for exclusively ‘BIPOC-students’ (black, indigenous, and people of colour) which not only failed to attract demand, but even more so failed our commitment to maintaining a value-oriented truly inclusive education place”?

    George Orwell's 1984 was intended to be a warning, not an instruction. As we are living in peculiar times where alien educators in Thailand have clandestinely decided to turn it into an instruction, it is vital to turn it back into a warning. Go and sharpen your pen; you will need it to protest. The core argument you should make: This is Thailand which you will not allow to become the battleground of a foreign cultural war. Full stop.

    Your children will thank you one day.

     
  5. FranchiseBlade

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    This seems like the new version of the Satanic Panic about D&D from decades ago. All the parents believed it was teaching kids to be satanists. There were all kinds of stories much like these. People misrepresented and twisted anything they kid to support their fear of the unknown, different, and out of their comfort zone.

    They were disingenuous at best. Most all of them seemed to insinuate that allowing kids to express their own feelings on the issue or accept others was a bad thing.

    What they portray as grooming seems to be introducing and showing that it is okay to express their own feelings. That is different than saying they should adopt those feelings against their nature.
     
  6. basso

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    the D&D is a cesspool, but I don't think anyone here has ever called it satanic.
     
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    The woke people want to chop off kids units
    It’s like game of thrones and every kid turned into reek
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    Is there a state that allows kids to get a tattoo before turning 18? Texas doesn't from what I remember.
     
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    there's a peculiar kind of sophistry at work in both PBS' and your own framing of this story.

    first, the events in the video take place at community centers and libraries, and are electives for the parents who choose to bring their kids to them. This is fundamentally different than holding these events in a school.

    further, they frame this as being about "LGBTQ" rights. If so, perhaps they should make the point that drag queens, and most cross dressers, are straight...and, to the point of the thread, DRAG QUEENS ARE NOT TRANSGENDER. so none of this has anything to do with L (these are men) G (cross dressers are mostly straight) B (why is this relevant?) T (cross dressers are not trans) or Q (maybe?).

    If none of those are relevant, then what's it all about?

    in my opinion, DomingX is dressed inappropriately, in a bustier and hot pants, for an event with kids. Ask yourself whether, when worn by a woman, such attire would be tolerated in a school classroom, or your own workplace? One can dress in drag w/o looking like a slut.
     
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  11. Amiga

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    Being different is okay. LGBTQXYZABC kids growing up knowing it’s okay if you are different is good for their mental health. If you are not different, you can know it’s okay for someone else to not be like you or most “normal” folks. It’s just a basic level of humanity toward others that are different than you.
     
  12. Amiga

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    yes

    It’s important to note that getting a tattoo is not an approved medical procedure to help resolve a diagnosed condition. Cutting off the penis skin is also not a procedure generally deem medically necessary but it’s generally legal in all states. And all medical procedures (such as breast implants) on minors are generally allowed with parental permission and without interference from the State.
     
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    No, that isn't sexualized IMO.

    I really don't know how common this really is - and if it is even associated with any schools.

    That is why I asked @FranchiseBlade about how often he has seen it.

    My sister in Super Intendent of a school district and she said that they haven't ever had drag queen story hours........ and @FranchiseBlade said that he isn't aware of any either.

    The video's of drag performances with children, that I have seen appear to be outside of school.

    I can say that transgendered issue come up, at least at my son's elementary school. However, IMO the teachers have handled it very well.
     
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    Drag queens "subvert middle-class family life"? Maybe it's hustle culture and the perpetual feeling of being underpaid. And for the moments you do get paid your worth for pulling off 50+ hour weeks...assholes like Powell blame you for an inflated economy.

    A bit laughable to pin trans and drags as the reason the "middle class is dying" or by extension, a hidden and sinister White Genocide slowly gripping the minds of Middle America...

    And how is Drag Queen story hour grooming? For what? Explain like I'm five..you groomer doomers will like that.

    Did any wacko fundie Christian ever bash Lavar Burton for Reading Rainbow?? By the twisted and pained extension of grooming, That's Miscegeny!!!

    I've heard of mothers dressing their boys in skirts and dresses when they were young. I don't have evidence (destroyed) or memory (repressed) of being victim of that, but we better criminalize that **** for good measure because obviously the children is Number One in all of this...not like we have other serious things to care about.
     
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    read your kids a book; we chose this one:

    https://a.co/d/f9kC5YF

     
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    In the old days, baby and toddler boys wore skirts. It was just more practical for parents. The idea of having different clothing for boys and girls during infancy and toddlerhood is relatively new. Marketers did a great job of convincing parents / society that they should have different clothing for their babies (talk about indoctrination, lol). It's great for the baby clothing business.
     
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    If your source for news or information leans one way politically, you will only see news or information confirming your established position.

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    And that's the beauty of the cesspool that is the D&D. It is many things, but not an echo chamber.
     
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