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transgendering the kids

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Commodore, Sep 21, 2022.

  1. rocketsjudoka

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    Where do you draw the line though on what can and can't be done? As policy this seems very much like putting politicians into doctors' offices.
    Can you cite that data?

    It seems like a lot of this is self reported because of the stigma that many youth feel with feeling transgender. This study though shows that suicide and suicidal feelings are very high among adolescents that identify as transgender.
    https://www.hrc.org/news/new-study-reveals-shocking-rates-of-attempted-suicide-among-trans-adolescen
     
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    Bro don't you know that people should stay within their box and lane and be called what they were born as bro? Strange and different is bad even if you do it in private bro.
     
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    I am on the road so not right now, but it isn't hard to find. I will do it this weekend if I remember.

    Yes, the studies that we have are self reporting, which have very little value for that reason. I don't think it is nefarious, it is just that it hasn't been viewed as a high priority until recently and we have a drag at this point.

    I don't think anyone is surprised that transgender people have a higher than average rate of suicide. The question is how high, what are the numbers for kids in gender positive therapy, what are the numbers on hormone blockers and what are the numbers potentially post transition.

    We don't know any of this information and that is why I am against permanent surgical procedures until they are adults. If we end up having reliable data later, then we can discuss and consider surgical procedures.

    There is a lot of misinformation out there on both sides.

    For example, I have heard that transgendered people are the most likely to be the victim of a hate crime and an assault. That isn't true either, the data out there doesn't really differentiate it that way, because we did not typically ask victims of crime if they were transgender.

    On the left there are some stats that are just not accurate, it is similar to what the left has started doing with statistics and the green movement.

    The problem is that those on the right, when they hear there are questions about the statistical reliability of somethings, they immediately discredit an entire group of people and in some cases use it to justify oppressive positions.

    The same issue is happening with social contagion as well. The media will not touch the issue of social contagion because it is so controversial. However, again a self reporting study comes out from an LGBTQ+ organization and the headlines say that it disproves social contagion and that is FALSE. A self reporting study has extremely limited value.

    It isn't just the left though, the right and the state of Florida has trumpeted the ROGD hypothesis, and that relies on a study of only 250 people and they are the parents of children, and not even the children.

    This is a subject where very very few facts are known at this time, and neither side wants to admit that - we have one side dismissing the idea that it may be in the best interest of children and society to have transition surgery and to be more inclusive in school and we have another side that is willing to risk the physical health of children without there being proper studies and information on the subject.
     
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    what is ROGD?
     
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    Rapid onset gender dysphoria
     
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    the Rapid Onset aspect would give me pause.
     
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    Woke lunatics now going after Muslims who find this dude not suitable to talk to children

    Muslims aren't down with the transformers
    they'll go GI Joe on them dudes

     
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    "Ukraine sucking our tax dollars" but I had no issues licking trumps boots when he passed a 2.3 trillion tax cut that went to the top 1%. Nobody takes you peoples concerns seriously as everyone knows the right is full of ****
     
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    You aren't the wisest consumer of media.
     
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    That no one is willing to defend this is a sign that not all is lost.
     
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    Woke anthem of woke Clutchfans d&d
     
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    This is what every right wing domestic terrorist wants. Don't be fooled by the decorum of folks on the right when they try to speak polite.

    This is their end game for all the right wing extremists including some on these boards.
     
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    This man literally just casually called for a genocide against a minority group and it was cheered at a major conservative conference.
     
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    Why are you surprised ? You think the right wing zealots in this thread want anything differently? You're being delusional. This is the modern day republican party. They ALL want this deep down. They're just polite in public.

    The gravest threat to America is right wing terrorists. It's not China or Russia. It's MAGA terrorists. You think zealots like @tinman don't want the same? LOL cmon man!
     
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    Oh, I'm not surprised at the intent, I am surprised at the boldness of that statement. Like i've said all along, I do not think this culture war against trans people is going to be successful in swing states that the GOP needs to pick up.

    If they are going to start openly say "We need to get rid of transgender people" then they have way overplayed their hand. They got bored of boiling the frog and put the stove on 11 and decided to fry it instead.
     
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