When has wrong been an issue? Far right playbook has always been to pick on people who are the most vulnerable - whether it be immigrants, transgender, or the poor - blame and deflect from problems that would question their philosophy. Transgender people are zero threat to anyone, and yet they have been turned into the new dark force of the galaxy.
@Nook ,when we "both sides" this you are essentially giving a loaded gun to bigots. Here is why. When you "both sides" this you are giving confirmation to bigots as a moderate that their views are within normal ranges of behavior. The other issue is when you or moderates in mass do this, they are doing it with one side purposefully holding back. What do I mean? You will never have a leader of a Democratic party running for higher office ever go on agenda driven mission to make sure religious indoctrination ends. Religious indoctrination is so deeply imbedded in our culture that no politician will attack parents religously indoctrinating their children. While the other side has no issue spamming the cause of ending "indoctrination" of children with LGBTQ propaganda. So you are fueling a one sided attack when doing this.
This is what the promotion of fringe elements in the trans community by far-right bigoted extremists, who falsely give the impression that those on the fringe represent the entire community, when it's not remotely the truth, can lead to. I've seen examples of that bizarre far-right extremism in this thread. You are helping cause incidents like this: California store owner, mother of nine, fatally shot over a Pride flag displayed in her shop The suspect made "several disparaging remarks" about the rainbow flag before shooting the owner, the San Bernardino Sheriff’s Department said. Aug. 20, 2023, 11:50 AM CDT By Doha Madani A business owner was fatally shot on Friday after someone allegedly took issue with a Pride flag she had displayed at her clothing store in Lake Arrowhead, California. Deputies responded at 5 p.m. to the shooting at the Mag Pi clothing store, where owner Laura Ann Carleton was pronounced dead at the scene, the San Bernardino Sheriff's Department said in a news release. The suspect, who was not identified, fled the scene on foot. “Through further investigation, detectives learned the suspect made several disparaging remarks about a rainbow flag that stood outside the store before shooting Carleton,” the news release said. The suspect was armed when confronted by deputies and was killed in "a lethal force encounter," the sheriff’s department said. An investigation is ongoing. The Mag Pi store website described Carleton as a mother of nine and has been "married to the same man for 28 years." Carleton, who went by the name Lauri, had studied at the Art Center School of Design and had had a long career in fashion, including 15 years as an executive at Kenneth Cole, the site said. Mountain Provisions Cooperative, a local grocery store, said in a Facebook post Saturday that Carleton had been pivotal in helping organize a free store after a blizzard hit the area earlier this year. "Lauri was a pillar in our community, an immovable force in her values for equality, love, and justice," the post said. "If you knew Lauri you know she loved hard, laughed often, and nurtured and protected those she cared about." The store encouraged people to "fly your flags in honor of Lauri." Lake Arrowhead LGBTQ+ said on Instagram that Carleton did not identify as a member of the queer community but was an advocate “for everyone in the community.” “Lauri’s unwavering support for the LBGTQ+ community and her dedication to creating a safe space within her shop touched the lives of many,” the organization wrote in an Instagram Story. “Her untimely passing in a senseless act of violence has left us all deeply saddened.” Comments on the organization’s social media account offered condolences to Carleton’s family and paid tribute to her contributions around the Lake Arrowhead community. Some said that the Pride flag at Mag Pi helped make them feel welcome and safe in the area. “Bridesmaids” film director Paul Feig was among those in the comment section, saying that Carleton would be “sorely missed.” “Lauri was such a wonderful person, so full of life and love,” Feig wrote. “She always made us laugh and always laughed with us. Her commitment to the community in general and the LGBTQ community specifically was just one of her many wonderful qualities.” https://www.nbcnews.com/nbc-out/out...hot-killed-pride-flag-displayed-sh-rcna100849 Mountain Provisions Cooperative 1d · In loving memory of our dear friend, mom to many, ally, organizer, entrepreneur and soul of our co-op Lauri Carleton. Lauri was a pillar in our community, an immovable force in her values for equality, love, and justice. If you knew Lauri you know she loved hard, laughed often, and nurtured and protected those she cared about. She was a force, she loved to crack jokes and wanted to live as joyful of a life as possible. We will continue to stand for the values she so selflessly stood for. Her death will not be in vain Lauri and her husband Bort were pivotal in organizing our Free Store which provided free food and supplies for 4 months after the blizzard. Lauri put her whole heart into keeping it going as long as we could. Pay an act of kindness forward in her honor. Our community needs as much as love as we can get right now. Fly your flags in honor of Lauri love will prevail. Please respect the privacy and be respectful of family and friends grieving this horrific loss Sending love to our entire community, especially our queer community. Stay safe friends.
It's very sad and senseless that this lady got murdered. Just wondering, how did the killer's alleged motive get determined so quickly and conclusively, given thst he's dead? Did he leave a manifesto, or did someone witness an argument between the lady and the murderer? One way or another, the murderer must have been a crazy, depraved individual. Especially sad because she was a mother of nine. I see that @Deckard and leftist Twitter are upset and in some cases blaming all Republicans or all conservatives for this senseless murder. Just checking, will you apply the same logic in the future and blame all Muslims when (not if) the next Charlie Hebdo equivalent murders happen?
Perhaps you missed this part of the article: “Through further investigation, detectives learned the suspect made several disparaging remarks about a rainbow flag that stood outside the store before shooting Carleton,” the news release said."
If Muslims murdered a person for advocating or being apart of the LGBTQ community I would condemn and insult all Muslims who propagate anti-lgbtq propaganda.
I would like to find out more facts before coming to a conclusion. Also, no sane person would kill someone over a rainbow flag. If this was indeed the motive of the murderer (yet tbd), the individual bears full responsibility. Yet, this incident is being used to try and pin blame on everyone who ever disagreed with any part of any LGBTQIA+ agenda point. It is painfully obvious that leftists are trying to use this tragedy to score political points and stifle any disagreement with any part of their agenda. Using an insane act of a crazy murderer to try to paint those who disagree with the concept of chemical or surgical castration of kids as "fascists": That's actually shameful.
Yes? Regardless of the exact motive, if someone just shoots someone in cold blood over whatever dispute, that's my assumption. What point are you trying to make?
Still not sure what the actual motive was, but there are some articles which claim that the murderer was her own brother. Not sure how credible. Any more info on who the shooter was?
Woke people don’t care that people get murdered every day in Oakland and Chicago because the DA let the criminals go free and they go out and finish the job of killing Murder is murder , if the California DA lets other murders go free for killing people then why not let this dude go free ?
Lots of California store owners have been murdered Usually the motive is money but woke people don’t get offended Hey this lady loves LGBT and BLM etc But those Black gang members didn’t care @ROXRAN
Lots of California store owners have been murdered Usually the motive is money but woke people don’t get offended Hey this lady loves LGBT and BLM etc But those Black gang members didn’t care ? @ROXRAN
She as a business owner in California doesn’t deserve to be killed If she had a gun could have defended herself like these California business owners
I’ve never blamed all in the Right for LGTQ hatred. In fact I’ve even noted there are groups like Log Cabin Republicans and gay Conservatives like Andrew Sullivan. I certainly don’t blame all Muslims for Charlie Hebdo. OTOH in this very thread you’ve posted several tweets of outrageous behavior by some to tar the “Left”. You’ve even said that everyone who disagrees with you is “hateful Leftists”. I’m it sure you’re in the position to be calling for Others to express nuance.
Link? I've googled and don't see anything about it possibly being her brother. EDIT - Never mind. I found random people on Twitter saying it.
