Trading Yao - What 'Other Fans' think

Cleveland Cavailiers Message Board:

llgauskas, Pavlovic, and Snow
for Yao Ming? ;-)

Rockets fans and management are
thinking about trading him.

oneshade Post #2: 8:03 am Quote | Report Violation
Total Posts: 73 N A NEW YORK SECOND!!
TedGinnJr Post #3: 8:22 am Quote | Report Violation
Total Posts: 64 Obviously you would... would it make us that much of a better team? I'm not sure.

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Charlotte Bobcats Messagebard:

Okafor, Knight, May, Hermann
for Yao Ming? ;-)

Rockets fans and management are
thinking about trading him.

raymerr Post #2: 8:17 am Quote | Report Violation
Total Posts: 487 Yao is going nowhere. He is the best Center in the NBA. Houston would be stupid to get rid of him. Trade Tracy McGrady for a solid power forward, sign a great point guard like chauncey Billups, (he is a free agent this year,) and get Vince Carter to replace T Mac. You will be competing for the championship.

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Dallas Mavericks Messageboard:

Terry, Dampier, and George
for Yao Ming? ;-)

Rockets fans and management are
thinking about trading him.

DiopItLikeItsHot Post #3: May 9, 8:43 am Quote | Report Violation

Yes...where do I sign? No way they would ever trade him, but I would pack Terry, Damp, and George's personal belongings for them.
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Memphis Grizzlies Messageboard:

Gasol and Miller
for Yao Ming, and Rafer Alston? ;-)

Rockets fans and management are
thinking about trading him.

woods949 Post #3: May 8, 11:57 am Quote | Report Violation
Total Posts: 4 stop trying to trade yao. he isn't worth trading good players for. he can't even carry his team out of the first round.
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New Orleans Hornets Messageboard:

Chandler, Butler, and Bobby Jackson
for Yao Ming? ;-)

Rockets fans and management are
thinking about trading him.

nolakid504 Post #2: May 8, 6:00 pm Quote | Report Violation
Total Posts: 233 I don't know. Bobby Jackson and Rasual Butler are solid players who would help yall. Tyson Chandler showed flashes of brilliance this season and he still is young. Yao is a perennial all-star, however. he's great, but I've heard people call him overrated as well as underrated, so I don't know how good he really is.

I'd do it, though. I think it would help our team a lot

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Pistons Message Board:

Mohammed, McDyess, and Prince
for Yao Ming? ;-)

Rockets fans and management are
thinking about trading him.

TonySopranHHHH Post #5: May 8, 10:50 am Quote | Report Violation
Total Posts: 167 The Prince of the Palace is staying put.
misspast Post #6: May 8, 11:56 am Quote | Report Violation
Total Posts: 77 If we picked up Grant Hill this summer I would be willing to think about this. A starting five of Yao, Sheed, Hill, Rip and CB would be nice. If Joe could get C Webb to resign as our first big off the bench we would still be awesome up front. We would lose one starter (Prince), one bench player (McDyess) and one bench warmer.
goblu22816 Post #7: May 8, 12:20 pm Quote | Report Violation
Total Posts: 67 Not a chance in hell! Tay has a wingspan of a 7'-0"+ which is rare to find at the 2-3 position. He has the ability to post low and play the outside depending on the match-up. He might not put up the numbers like Yao does, but he is more of a role-player than Yao will ever be.

With that being said, it would be interesting to see how Yao could dominate in the Eastern Conference with no big centers in the conference (excluding Shaq because of injuries and not being as dominant anymore).





Wolverine_Joe Post #8: May 8, 1:47 pm Quote | Report Violation
Total Posts: 4138 nazr, davis, and amir johnson(who will be studd) for yao

and yao takes a huge pay cut.




wuicker Post #9: May 8, 2:43 pm Quote | Report Violation
Total Posts: 235 You can not have the duck. You can have the chicken.

I'd trade Mohammed, McDyess, and Flip Murray for Yao. Maybe I just have a soft spot for Prince.

abcdefgqwerty Post #10: May 8, 3:12 pm Quote | Report Violation
Total Posts: 153 I definately agree. There is no way prince alone would be worth yao ming. Prince is too good and isnt that old. Prince in a good game does about as much or close as yao does. Throw in mcdeiss and its not worth it.

LambsLowdown Post #11: May 8, 6:56 pm Quote | Report Violation
Total Posts: 1815 You'd have to be a fool not to want Yao here. The guy is 26, and he is the best true center in the league right now. I'd give up Nazr, McDyess, and the Orlando pick. I don't even care about his massive contract.

LambsLowdown Post #12: May 8, 6:58 pm Quote | Report Violation
Total Posts: 1815 I definately agree. There is no way prince alone would be worth yao ming. Prince is too good and isnt that old. Prince in a good game does about as much or close as yao does. Throw in mcdeiss and its not worth it.


Not saying I'd give him up either, but Prince is actually 7 months older than Yao. A misconception is that Yao is aging.

caelo4 Post #13: May 8, 10:24 pm Quote | Report Violation
Total Posts: 41 Yao has been plagued with injuries in his short time in the NBA, on the other hand Prince has the longest active streak going for consecutive games played. Add up all the games missed and the ones that Prince has been available for. No Trade.
kalv777 Post #14: May 8, 11:03 pm Quote | Report Violation
Total Posts: 55 I definately agree. There is no way prince alone would be worth yao ming. Prince is too good and isnt that old. Prince in a good game does about as much or close as yao does. Throw in mcdeiss and its not worth it.

Not saying I'd give him up either, but Prince is actually 7 months older than Yao. A misconception is that Yao is aging.


That is why Yao out of the playoff in the first round. His height will cause him more injury. Look how slow he look playing Carlos Boozer. No will I would want, and he doesn't have any fire. In today's game you don't need a true center to win. lets try to play some small ball.
LambsLowdown Post #15: May 9, 9:53 am Quote | Report Violation
Total Posts: 1815 nazr, davis, and amir johnson(who will be studd) for yao

and yao takes a huge pay cut.





Amir is untouchable. I'd give up the Orlando pick before giving up Amir.

Piston363636 Post #16: May 9, 5:15 pm Quote | Report Violation
Total Posts: 258 think in two years of amir and yao in the post. with rip tay and chauncey still playing well.
detroitttttbasketbaaallll Post #17: May 9, 7:05 pm Quote | Report Violation
Total Posts: 25 i would try and get kevin garnett. dump all the left overs. not that i dont like them. but, trade, nazi,mckyd,cwebb,davis.. thats it. train the MAD MAX under kevin for the muscle where all set. and maybe someone a little stronger then RIP. thats abou it.

 

Mikwaukee Bucks Message Board:

Bogut, Villanueva, Boykins
for Yao Ming? ;-)

Rockets fans and management are
thinking about trading him.

ccasper1375 Post #5: May 8, 11:43 am Quote | Report Violation
Total Posts: 107 Please get real with these trade "ideas." This is proposterous!

shjg2006 Post #6: May 8, 1:41 pm Quote | Report Violation
Total Posts: 14 I gotta say I think this is an aweful aweful trade. The only good thing about it is that Earl Boykins would be gone. Other than that its worthless.
derek9182 Post #7: May 8, 2:26 pm Quote | Report Violation
Total Posts: 25 Bogut, Villanueva, Boykins
for Yao Ming? ;-)

Rockets fans and management are
thinking about trading him.


I highly doubt Houston is thinking about trading Yao. Do you have anything to back that up? As for the fans, I doubt they have much pull in making this trade. This is just stupid.

Fan1840 Post #8: May 9, 10:49 pm Quote | Report Violation
Total Posts: 2238 Let me make sure I have this straight: You want to trade one big, foreign, soft, underacheiving, former first-overall pick for another big, foreign, soft, underacheiving, former first-overall pick?

And you're throwing CV in there for what, good measure? Oh, wait, no - you're doing that so that the contracts match up, so I'll revise.

You're trading one big, foreign, soft, non-clutch, underacheiving former first-overall pick who makes way too much money for another big, foreign, soft, non-clutch, underacheiving former first-overall pick, who is still on his (albeit overpriced) rookie deal?

Let me think about that........ummmm no.



Yea, no need to revise, just use some common sense.

Why do the Bucks need the contracts to match? Look, I think it's great you learned how to use a computer, but you need to get a clue. Yao's a 7'5 beast in the middle.

I know, I know, if you're not a "thug" you're not any good.


Please. You're act is getting SO tired. You're the worst kind of fan. The kid who just incessantly whines about EVERYTHING.

Dude, stfu, we've got it.

 

Portland Trail Blazers Messageboard:

Jack, Aldridge, Jones, Lafrentz
for Yao Ming? ;-)

Rockets fans and management are
thinking about trading him.

portlandAsfan Post #3: May 8, 1:26 pm Quote | Report Violation
Total Posts: 302 Not a chance. Aldridge will have a better career than Yao.

Chris

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Seattle Supersonics Messageboard:

Lewis and Collison
for Yao Ming? ;-)

Rockets fans and management are
thinking about trading him.

DA_GLOVE_of_UDUB Post #8: May 8, 1:42 pm Quote | Report Violation
Total Posts: 774 Yao can put up some big numbers but we'd be losing the fairly big numbers of Lewis and Collison seems just as strong in the paint as Yao.






Oh, this is hilarious... "the fairly big numbers of Lewis and Collison".
WOW...


I forgot the comma, get over it.

"the fairly big numbers of Lewis,,,,, and Collison seems just as strong in the paint as Yao."

Look, I want a good bigman more than anyone but Yao is pretty soft and the rest of the Sonics team is soft as a tissue. I want a guy like Howard, Zo, Brand, Amare, Ben Wallace, Duncan etc down low. I'm tired of the softies the Sonics put down low so I personally don't want Yao. Is it because I think Lewis and Collison are amazing? no, it's becuse I don't want Yao!


bkang78 Post #9: May 9, 10:58 am Quote | Report Violation
Total Posts: 81 YES. I can't believe some Sonics fans. They whine about never having a legit center, then when someone offers the best center in the NBA they won't part with their guys. Face it, Lewis and Collison are nice, but Yao is a franchise player. The guy averaged 25 and 10 and shoot 86% at the line. The Rockets would be crazy to trade Yao.
Murzod Post #10: May 9, 11:25 am Quote | Report Violation
Total Posts: 118 Lewis and Collison
for Yao Ming? ;-)

Rockets fans and management are
thinking about trading him.


If the Rockets are actually considering dealing Yao (I doubt it), they wouldn't be dumb enough to make such a lopsided deal as what you've proposed.

Instead, they'd propably shop him to a team like Chicago, with a glut of young athletic players with high ceilings and managable salaries.

jakedog56. Post #11: May 9, 10:13 pm Quote | Report Violation
Total Posts: 1005 Lewis and Collison
for Yao Ming? ;-)

Rockets fans and management are
thinking about trading him.


If the Rockets are actually considering dealing Yao (I doubt it), they wouldn't be dumb enough to make such a lopsided deal as what you've proposed.

Instead, they'd propably shop him to a team like Chicago, with a glut of young athletic players with high ceilings and managable salaries.



If the Sonics threw in their pick then you might be getting closer. They would want something more like: Lewis, Wilcox and 1st round pick before they would even consider.
sonicINoz Post #12: May 9, 10:30 pm Quote | Report Violation
Total Posts: 29 why even propose this when it will never ever happen.

why would houston trade yoa after putting so much time into him, and what would they have left mutombo playing centre next year. ridiculous!!

trading wilcox and lewis seems much more practial, im not sure about the figures but would this even fit in with the cap?

like jakedog said the rockets will never bite if we just give them those two they would need a first round pick and i would not be keen to give up our top pick in the draft.

Do the rockets rate ridnour? even if they dont im sure we could trade ridnour for a first round pick to someone who needs a point guard, even if the selection is between 15 and 30

if they would like rid which i think is a possibilty (tracy would love luke at houston i think, and they only have altson really) to include him in package that is more practical

lewis wilcox and ridnour (or first round pick from ridnour trade) for yoa and battier

the thing with this trade and why it does make sense is battier had such a great year and made such an impression in houston that it defeats the purpose in getting lewis. why would houston want lewis when battier is set to be in houston for many years to come? i personally would love battier here but i could never see them letting him go let alone yoa.

Possibilty of this trade ever occuring : zero

Murzod Post #13: 9:27 am Quote | Report Violation
Total Posts: 118 Lewis and Collison
for Yao Ming? ;-)

Rockets fans and management are
thinking about trading him.


If the Rockets are actually considering dealing Yao (I doubt it), they wouldn't be dumb enough to make such a lopsided deal as what you've proposed.

Instead, they'd propably shop him to a team like Chicago, with a glut of young athletic players with high ceilings and managable salaries.



If the Sonics threw in their pick then you might be getting closer. They would want something more like: Lewis, Wilcox and 1st round pick before they would even consider.

That deal makes way more sense. In fact, I'd probably pull the trigger if I'm the Sonics, then unload a few of our crap project centers for some young athletes capable of defending the perimeter (don't really care if they can score).

 

Charlotte Bobcats Message Board:

Okafor, Knight, May, Hermann
for Yao Ming? ;-)

Rockets fans and management are
thinking about trading him.

ranchkenya Post #3: May 8, 2:49 pm Quote | Report Violation
Total Posts: 671 Sure, and while youre at it try to get Lebron, Kobe, Duncan, and Garnett.
raymerr Post #4: May 8, 3:06 pm Quote | Report Violation
Total Posts: 513 You are an idiot, dude. Tell me why, if Houston got rid of TMac, they wouldn't have the cap space to get Vince and Chauncey? Or are you even capable of free-thought? That is what I thought. Chauncey and Vince are free-agents this year, or didn't you know that?

Corey Brewer for president!!! He is the next great shooting guard in the NBA! How old are you Kenya? 12? That's what I thought.

ranchkenya Post #5: May 8, 3:25 pm Quote | Report Violation
Total Posts: 671 lol im 12? youre the one getting upset over a message board. perhaps you should calm down, relax, and breathe. The reason why the Rockets wont be able to get Carter AND Billups is because it will be the last bigf payday of Carter and Billups' career so their going to get as much as they can ( refer to the Ben Wallace contract ). In that case than no, even if they get rid of Mcgrady they wont have the cap space.

.. breathe

raymerr Post #6: May 8, 7:10 pm Quote | Report Violation
Total Posts: 513 Juwan Howard is already leaving this year, that frees up $7 mill per. T Mac is making $16 mil per, Dikembe is leaving,( that's another $2 1/2 mil,), bonzi wells is gone that adds another $2 1/2 per, Jake Tsakaldis is also a FA at $3 million per ...that is $31 million that the Rockets would have available to go after Vince and Chauncey. Vince makes $15 million per and that is not likely to increase...he is on the tail end of his career, and Chauncey makes $6 million per. Which may increase to about $8-$12 million per year. That would be a total of $23 million per year which leaves roughly $4 million in cap space for those of you who are not well versed at simple arithmetic. Anything else you want to add, hiddenvalley?
ranchkenya Post #7: May 9, 2:20 pm Quote | Report Violation
Total Posts: 671 So youre wanting to take away roughly a third of the current Rockets roster for 2 players who are aging quickly. ok!
raymerr Post #8: May 9, 3:57 pm Quote | Report Violation
Total Posts: 513 Despite the fact that only one of those players start and all of them are free-agents, ummm...lemme think about this one, yesss. With a starting lineup of these five, who cares who the backups are, and it just so turns out that they still have another 6 million or so to fill in their roster.

PG Chincey Billups Rafer Alston

SG Vince Carter Luther Head

SF Shane Battier Kirk Snyder

PF Chuck Hayes 2004 Draft pick

C Yao Ming

ranchkenya Post #9: May 9, 5:32 pm Quote | Report Violation
Total Posts: 671 In my opinion that team would do about the same or worse than the team did this year. Lets assume that replacing Mcgrady for Carter is an even trade off, and that replacing Alston for Billups is indeed in Billups favor by a large margin, but although Howard is getting old he is still rather productive. With Hayes only being 6'6 I could easily see him getting man handled in the rugged West where the PF's are deadly. Yao has never really been a great defender or shot blocker, I just think the Rockets would get humiliated down low with that lineup you mentioned above.
raymerr Post #10: May 9, 8:07 pm Quote | Report Violation
Total Posts: 513 They would certainly be better than the Nets are this year. And the Nets are pretty good. Macgrady has never taken his team past the first round of the playoffs, Vince has gotten the Nets into the conference championships. That would be an upgrade from Tracy. Yao can hold his own on the inside.

 

Clippers Message Board:

Kaman, Mobley, and Cassell
for Yao Ming? ;-)

Rockets fans and management are
thinking about trading him.

CLIPTNYTE Post #2: May 8, 12:52 pm Quote | Report Violation
Total Posts: 27 Watch out.. I wouldnt do it but Sterling might to sell tickets to CHinese Americans in LA

InBrandWeTrust Post #3: May 8, 2:30 pm Quote | Report Violation
Total Posts: 47 I would, definitely.

Kaman sucks, mobley and sammy are aging.

The only thing that works agains Yao is his lack of quickness and delay of movement. Kaman has that same problem, I don't think this will go through though, considering that is a very lop-sided deal (imo).;-P

aoieong Post #4: May 8, 3:17 pm Quote | Report Violation
Total Posts: 54 even both side of fans want it happend....but just WON'T cuz the salary caps already kill the deal-.-

trapp76_2002 Post #5: May 8, 3:55 pm Quote | Report Violation
Total Posts: 590 Kaman, Mobley, and Cassell
for Yao Ming? ;-)



I'd make that trade in a second if I'm the Clippers, thats the kind of trade that could completely turn the franchise around.

The Rockets would obviously need to add another player to make the salaries match (Kaman is worth about 9.1 million for trade purposes - the average of this years salary and the salaries he's going to receive from his new contract).

The trade would have to be something like Kaman, Mobley and Cassell for Yao, Howard and Bob Sura.

I seriously doubt the Rockets would even entertain the idea of trading Yao though in all honesty.

arnab_chakladar Post #6: May 9, 4:47 pm Quote | Report Violation
Total Posts: 153 the rockets' fans are thinking of trading him? oh wow! send the contract right over!

 

Sacramento Kings Messageboard:

Miller, Salmons, and Thomas
for Yao Ming? ;-)

Rockets fans and management are
thinking about trading him.

PWillDomination Post #3: May 8, 9:40 am Quote | Report Violation
Total Posts: 41 HELL NO WHY WOULD WE WANT HIM HE ISNT DOMINATE HE IS AS SOFT AS BRAD MILLER. WE NEED TO SHIP BIBBYS ACE OUTTA TOWN I DONT CARE WHERE HE GOS I DONT WANNA SEE HIM IN PURPLE ANYMORE . IM OPEN FOR THE TEAM TO RELOCATE