ARE YOU KIDDIN' ME??? WAS THAT A JOKE? Man you probably don't know what you're sayin'... Juwan and Mutombo carried the Rockets....HAHAHAHAHAHAHA Tracy was awesome. Yes that's true. He was probably about 28 or somethin like that (ppg). He was scorin', passin' and doin' everythin. Of course Mutombo did a great job but come on.
ok, who helped tmac when he took orlando to the playoffs 3 straight yrs? doc rivers? your hate is just beyond belief. you're saying a guy who put up 29.9ppg, 5 rpg and 7.5 apg IS NOT CARRYING A TEAM? u do recognize tmac went up as top 3 in MVP voting for that month in most of the media right? that stretch put tmac BACK ON THE MAP in terms of the media. obviously one guy can't do it all. juwan and deke did step up. JVG did a great job defensively. but if tmac goes to the lakers, u have lamar odom for ballhandling/rebounding responsibilities. u have derek fisher for veteran leadership. and plus, u have phil and his triangle offense, where tmac would flourish. the lakers would still contend for a 6th seed, probably better than with kobe. let's be real. tmac makes his teammates better.
I said, Juwan and Mutombo picked up their game to almost replace Yao's contribution. Juwan provided interior scoring, Mutombo interior defense. These two guys basically replaced Yao. Therefore, the Rockets didn't suffer that much, and kept on winning. Juwan and Mutombo's impact was greater than T-mac. T-Mac always scored in the mid 20's. He was also contributing. The key was, Yao went down. Who will step up and replacce Yao? Juwan and Mutombo did. And more importantly, it was JVG who coached that team to keep on winning. If you had any other coach, maybe that doesn't happen. So more than T-Mac, it was Mutombo/Juwan and JVG that really was the big reason why the Rockets kept winning. You T-Mac lovers will say it was T-Mac, but if Mutombo/Juwan didn't step up, they'd lose big time. For example, when T-Mac went down, Yao really raised his game, but he had nobody to replace T-Mac's scoring. Who did he have? Luther Head? This is why the Rockets lost when T-Mac went down, but won when Yao went down. Yao was replaceable because the Rockets had veterans in Juwan Howard and Mutombo to pick up Yao's slack. The ROckets did not have anyone to replace T-Mac.
haahahha its like a knockout fight! the greatest TOF/Yao hater and the greatest YOF/Tracy hater duke it out against each other.
Would this trade work? Houston Rockets out: Mike James/Aaron Brooks/Shane Battier/1st Round pick/Sura Contract Lakers out: Kobe Bryant/Derek Fisher Our new line-up Yao Scola T-mac Kobe Fisher
exactly. that's why the lakers, if they want to make the playoffs, would not want to trade yao straight up for kobe. they would want tracy. u just made my point. deke can easily replace yao's defense and rebounding for stretches. hayes certain helped out in that department greatly. juwan is still good for 12-15 pts during that stretch. but tracy makes that offense go. u probably need to retain francis/james/bonzi/luther/AND alston just to replace what tracy does on the court. and even then, if u take out tracy, i doubt the rockets can get more than an 8th seed. i never underestimated the importance of deke and howard and JVG. tmac said the same things. it's a TEAM game. no one player is more important than the team. tmac could have avg 35ppg and they could have been below .500 if those 2 didn't step up. but his "PRESENCE" as a teammate helped raise their game. tmac would PASS to deke AND hayes, two fo the worst offensive players right now. that's why they wanted to play for tmac when yao was out and elevate their games.
I doubt it man the Lakers would probably want high 1st round picks and/or a young stud. Mike James is like 32, Aaron is unproven, and Battier just isn't enough.
Don't you think it would be too easy for us to get Kobe without givin' Tracy or Yao? So I think it would not work.
Nah. You don't get it. If the Rockets did not have Mutombo, one of the greatest defensive centers, and did not have Juwan Howard, a capable shooting PF, raise their games, the Rockets could not have won while yao was out. For instance, last season, Kobe was unbelievable, scoring 50, 60, 70 points a game. Yet the Lakers still lost. It IS a team game, so why do you overstate T-Mac's contribution to that winning streak? Yao Ming > T-Mac to a team. Look at the per 40 minutes. Look at the efficiency ratings. But even Yao Ming, could not lead a team on his own. Neither can T-Mac. Even Michael Jordan would not have led a team without Pippen.
This is true....However, wouldnt this free up a ton of cap space? and the 08 free agent market is loaded.
are you an expert robber? rox would make out as the thieves of the century. no way would they consider that if u give them a gazillion draft picks b/c the rox would never get top 20 picks since they'll be busy winning rings. again, to get kobe, u have to most likely give up tmac + 2 of your starters/main guys. buss asked chicago for gordon, deng, + 1st round pick AND hinrich (that's 3/5 of their lineup) dallas offered howard + terry + pick and that aint enough.
oh wow. when a team has just one superstar, the ONLY place u could lead a team is to the first-round of the playoffs. no one expects them to go any further (unless that superstar is in the east like lebron). the reason lakers lose when kobe goes off is b/c why? he doesn't pass. did u see that game where he scored 53 pts on us and still lost? in that 3rd quarter he jacked up 12 shots and made 2. read that again, he JACKED UP 12 SHOTS AND MADE 2. he wouldn't force shots over double teams. now REALLY, is that a team game? again, i ask u again, if u don't count last yr as tmac carrying a team, what about orlando? jordan carried the bulls to the playoffs BY HIMSELF. when you're by yourself, that's all you can do.
I think the Lakers realize they need to go into rebuilding mode. The main objective in rebuilding is getting as much cap space for upcoming free agents...Brooks is a great rebuilding piece and battier and james could contribute or be used as trade bait....I dont know...I guess I'm just dreaming of a line up that included Yao/Mac/Kobe....That spells DYNASTY to me!!!
I agree that Deke and Juwan did a great job. Mutombo was outstandin at the defensive end + was a perfect rebounder. Juwan was really on fire, makin' most of his shots. But really T-Mac was the key. Of course you will say I'm only tmac fan but man, that is a real truth. He was 3rd in the "Race to the mvp", he was scorin' like kb. Everybody will say that . http://www.nba.com/rockets/schedule/results_2006.html And he showed he can carry the team, he did it.
The Rockets would have to give up T-Mac, Brooks, Battier, and maybe 2 first round picks to get Kobe. If I were the Lakers, considering how in two years, Kobe is just going to walk, I'd do that trade. T-Mac is as close to Kobe as you will get minus the heart. Brooks is an explosive young PG, and Battier is solid.
how about both is a wanna be jordan and the other is a mini-lyte jordan. tmac does not play like pippen at all. but again, i want to see what we can do with tmac and yao. i still believe these 2 can lead this team to the promised land. this season will prove everyone wrong.
Dumbest comment I've read on this board. You think that a Kobe + T-Mac will get along? LOL. These two both think they are Michael Jordans, and both would hog the ball. Your comment is the DUMBEST comment I've seen in a very long time. I may use it in my signature.
what has brooks done in an NBA game that the lakers would want? they just drafted critterion and u think they want brooks? like i said, riox prollie would have to take back bynum + kobe. rockets would have to give up tmac + battier + francis/james/scola (most likely scola). the lakers STILL AHVE ONE YEAR to ponder this. so they're not in a rush until next offseason. by then, this team might have just won the finals and all this is for jack.
Thats how I feel. I realy dont want to see anymore trades with our current roster. I think we have a championship roster and bringing in Kobe to replace Tmac will kill our chemistry. +Sending Tmac to the Lakers will reset his chances at a ring and I would realy hate to do that to the Mac or anyone on our team...just knowing the Rockets are entertaining these trade talks worries me because it might upset some of our stars.
