Let me ask you Barkley this question: If T-Mac averaged 1 points for the rest of his career with the Rockets, but the Rockets go on winning, would you be happy? Now, I know you will never answer this question honestly. Of course you wouldn't be happy, man. But you will lie through your teeth and say, Yeah man, I'd be happy as long as Houston Rockets are winning. If the Rockets traded Kobe for T-Mac, if you were a true Rockets fan, you'd be ecstatic, but because you're a T-Mac only fan, you would never want that trade to happen. T-Mac only fans are bunch of hypocritical liars.
First of all. Buss said it, ok but Kobe also said he wanted a trade but the Lakers did not trade him. That's only words. Lakers' not gonna trade Kobe this year. Belive me. If they won't have any success this year they will probably trade him next year. As for T-Mac "He was born for Houston" means Houston is the better place for him. The better place = he can win a championship. Especially this year. With new coach, with healthly back, with healthly Yao, with new guards around him, with Scola... I'm T-Mac fan, yes, but first of all I'M A ROCKETS' FAN!
Ok Barkley. Prove it. The lakers come to the Rockets and say, Look, we'll trade you Kobe for T-Mac straight up. Deal? yes or no. You're the GM. Do you make this trade? Yes or No. PROVE that you're a Houston Rocket fan first, and then a T-Mac only fan.
I really do no know what would I do. Kobe is of course better player than Tracy no doubt. He's better one on one probably better shooter. But I think some of the people do not see what Tracy has been doin'. What he did lasy season. Look Kobe didn't have to ba a playmaker.
No ideas, really. It's so tough. First of all I would not be a GM but probably a lot of GM would say "hell yes".
what about buss comes and asks for yao for kobe? would u say yes or no? u call him a tmac-only fan but you admitted you're a yao only fan. u would not even like it if yao avg 13 pts and the rox win the ring.
I take your unwillingness to answer a big loud NO. So you prove my point. T-Mac only fans are not really pro-Houston fans either. they are first and foremost, T-Mac only fans. Only a T-Mac Only Fan says things like "T-Mac was BORN!! to play in Houston." Not even me, a Yao Ming fan would say that.
I just wanted to ask the same. What would you do? Or think. If Shaq was 7 years younger and Miami GM would say "I want to trade shaq for yao." Would you do that if you was a GM?
That's your opinion... I said you. "He was born to play in Houston" means this is the best place for him to win the Tittle. Maybe even this year
The reality is, Barkley and doublehh03, The Houston Rockets considers Yao Ming untradeable. If the LA Lakers came to the Houston Management, and asked for Yao Ming, the Rockets would laugh in their face, and instead offer T-Mac. In Two years, Kobe can cut loose on his contract. This is why Jerry Buss is willing to trade Kobe NOW to get some value. As a Houston Rocket fan, no, I would not trade Yao for Kobe because Yao is more important than Kobe to the organization. Yao was drafted by the Rockets. He's a homeboy. Yao has outstanding work ethic, and character. Yao is #1 Center. Yao makes $$ for the Rockets. T-Mac was not drafted but came here through a trade because T-Mac wanted to play for Yao Ming. T-Mac does not have outstanding work ethic, and character. He's shown time and time again he is lazy, and has character issues. T-mac is not even #1 SF. He's got a broken back, and his skills have deteriorated. T-Mac does not make $$ for the Rockets. He has a big contract that is overpriced. Sorry T-Mac only fans, but Yao Ming will not be traded. T-Mac will be traded before that happens. If the Lakers came to the Rockets TODAY, and offered Kobe for T-Mac / Battier, and 1st round pick, the Rockets will instantly say YES.
yao_fan_2007 please stop it. You call us only T-Mac's fans...you're funny. Looks like you're only yao fan and T-Mac hater. If we are only tmac fans so how should we call you?
i'm not saying that you're wrong. houston would trade tmac before yao, but for ONE reason and one reason only - the money that yao rakes in for houston. yao is the best center in the L but that's nothing to say considering the position is as weak as ever and PFs can be all-nba players at that position is something that wouldn't happen a few yrs ago. it's the SAME reason why milwaukee didn't want to trade yi when china asked for it. yi will bring them the international attention that a team like milwakee wouldn't get. u saw more of milwaukee during this preseason on ESPN than most of last yr. basketball IS a business. if purely talking about impact, buss would prefer a tracy mcgrady. yao has not proven he can carry a team by himself yet so i don't think buss would trust his entire franchise on just yao ming. the lakers do have some talent and some decent big men. now u pair tracy + battier + a james/francis with odom + brown + fisher + phil jackson, you get a legit contending team. but again, basketball is a business. socal is an asian populated area. so it makes sense they would want yao.
LOL. You really are a Yao hater, aren't you? so you think the only value Yao brings to an organization is $$? LOL. Yao is the best Center in the NBA, fool. Have you seen him play last year? He's dominating in the Low post. Yao's value to an organization is way more than just $$. Get a clue, and take your head out of T-Mac's ass.
didn't i say yao is not the best center in the NBA? didn't i say yao is not a top 5 big man in the NBA? but again, has he proven to carry a team by himself in the NBA? if u put yao on the lakers w/o kobe, u think that lakers team would win more than 20 games? buss wouldn't do that UNLESS he makes a profit anyways. yao would give him a profit. that's all i'm saying. if buss wants to make the playoffs, he would ask for tracy, who showed last yr he can still carry a team. yao hasn't. that's factual. and explain to me why milwaukee wouldn't even think about trading yi when he basically begged and pleaded to be traded? not hold a workout w/ milwaukee? explain that to me. it's a business my friend. a business. milwaukee would trade redd if anything before they trade yi my friend.
You mean like how Kobe carried the Lakers by himself? Like KG carry Minnesota by himself. Let me guess: You'll say T-Mac carried the Orlando Magic on his back? Is that why T-Mac's back is broken now?
Agree. Yao IS the best center in the NBA. But Lakers probably would not ask for Yao cause without Kobe or Tracy and Only with Yao the Lakers would be done. Yao is really good but he cannot carry the team alone. He needs another good guy on the team I think
Last year, when Yao went out, two players really picked it up while he was gone. JHoward, and Mutombo. But I have to credit one person for the Rocket's performance while Yao was out. No, it's not T-Mac. It's JVG. The reason the Rockets were able to withstand the loss of Yao was because of JVG. Put in any other coach, and maybe the Rockets will fall apart. T-Mac did not carry the Rockets. He has Mutombo and Juwan picking up the slack for Yao Ming. Juwan provided the offense, and Mutombo the Defense. Let's see how the Rockets would've fared without Mutombo, or Juwan or JVG. They would have collapsed. T-Mac is no leader. He's a great scorer, but not a leader.
"carry" in terms of getting that team to the playoffs. a yao-led team would not make the playoffs, if you don't have a lot of other pieces. if u just have odom + yao, pencil in 20 wins and a possible chance at the #1 pick. when u have a superstar and nothing else, the best u can do is make the palyoffs like tmac/kobe/kg/iverson have proven. so yes, w/ tmac, the lakers would still make the playoffs. and no, tmac's back problems extend way back to his toronto days. he just never knew how to treat it until patterson so yes, it got worse when he had to carry a load. but we saw last yr w/o yao, tmac can still dominate and carry a team ON HIS BACK.
