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Trading Tmac for Kobe?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by battousai, Oct 11, 2007.

  1. camilla

    camilla Member

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    Everything may happen because of this commerial world! :(
     
  2. Yao4REAL

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    Using Shaq's free throw analogy as a superstar is "A STUPID ARGUMENT," because Shaq is never known as a shooter let alone a great shooter...where as Tmac is known as a great shooter.

    Kobe insult his teammates is a good insult. This shows he is a competitive and wants to win it so bad. His will to move to a winning team show his competitive nature as well...I rather have someone that is competitive and and a desire to win than someone that lay back and just grooving along like Tmac.
     
  3. doublehh03

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    how do u know tmac is not competitive? did u see his emotion during the game 7? he was pumping his fist and yelling at the crowd when we took the lead? did u see his emotion in the post game when we lost?

    i expect tmac to do BIG things this yr.

    again, kobe IS competitive, but that competitiveness is at the will of his teammates. he doesn't trust his teammates after a few misses, UNLIKE TMAC, who continues to pass if they're open. kobe doesn't believe in his teammates at the end of the game, tmac does (ala head).

    that's why NO ONE on the lakers team likes him, from back then till now. phil jackson didn't even like him and only came back for the $30 mil for 3 yrs.

    again, u make it seem like houston is a place he wants to go to. if yao is "so great," kobe would have said, send me to houston as AN ULTIMATUM. i'm sure buss would then oblige b/c he can get tmac IF KOBE FORCES IT since tmac is also a superstar. but he doesn't.
     
  4. watashi315

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    I remember watching an interview a while back with Yao and the reporter asked him to explain why T-Mac jerseys are outselling Yao jerseys in China. Yao simply smiled and said "Nobody likes to watch a center play. Guards are more exciting."

    With the change in rules allowing for a faster pace, guards are getting all the spotlight. Gone are the days of Shaq and Barkley where you can stay in the center forever and back your opponents down. When was the last time you saw a center getting some spotlight on ESPN? This is a league of Lebrons, Kobes, and yes, T-Macs. Simply put, no matter how dominant or skilled you are, centers today are viewed as second fiddles. Yao knows it and he's always played the part of Robin to T-Mac's Batman.

    That's why he never gets the blame. As long as he puts in the effort, it's ok. This is still Batman's team.
     
  5. doublehh03

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    but i can counter saying that the center position is as WEAKEST as ever and the SG position is as COMPETITIVE as ever.

    the perimeter players ALWAYS take the last shot b/c they can get any shot they want and it's harder to swarm them so you can blame tmac in that sense.

    but i'm talking about the 3.5 quarters. shaq OBLITERATED the center position after hakeem, ewing, drob... retired b/c it's so weak. yao needs to do that.

    that's fine if tmac gets all the blame. but i want yao to OBLITERATE the center position. it's WEAK WEAK WEAK right now. if amare is 1st-team, what the hell is going on the NBA? amare is not even a superstar and he's first team.

    dwight howard doesn't even have an offensive move and he's 3rd-team all-nba.

    now tell me, if the center is so weak, yao should dominate WITH EASE.
     
  6. The Brian

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    jordan did the same thing kobe is doing now, except jordan probably did a lot worse.

    mj was notorious for insulting his teammates. kobe isn't even on that level; they both have similar competitive spirits, though.
     
  7. watashi315

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    With all the "hybrid" PF-Centers playing these days like Amare and Duncan, the center position is not weak at all. They can shoot, pass, and dominate on the inside. After Shaq retires, Yao is the last of his kind in the league, the traditional center. Don't give me this "with ease" crap. Against stiff competition from hybrids, Yao is already viewed as the most dominant center in the league, and there was nothing easy about getting to where he is today.

    I smell a Yao-hater.
     
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    Thats rich coming from a t-mac hater. hipocracy at it's finest.
     
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    Kobe didnt want to share the ball with the most dominating big man of all time, what makes you people think he'll wanna share the ball with a inferior big like yao?.

    I'll definetly do this trade, but i camnt wait for the reaction of YAO-ONLY-FANS when kobe starts hogging the ball and starts freezing yao out.
     
  10. withmustard

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    not sure if this has been mentioned but in a chron article they just mentioned how if kobe is on the block, then the rockets could be front-runners
     
  11. plutoblue11

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    High-Maintenance Super Star vs. Low Maintenance Super Star.....Kobe is much better player than TMAC, but I cringe about the a trade....I don'twant to lose too many pieces that our GM worked hard to get and could possibly reach the NBA Finals. I think Yao/Kobe would be great factor, but who are other pieces will they get to play the way we intended with Adelman's motion offense.

    I believe the rapist bit is still questionable, the girl was kinda loose...it's hard to tell.

    People do it for every day...selling their souls to Devil. It's bound to happen. Even to people who are family oriented and God-loving. But I do, believe that Mac is better fit....Kobe is like a well-made expensive car....great fast, good longevity, but the pieces to keep well-oiled and satisfied are too much migraine.

    Let's hope not...he's already being and has been evicerated by the media.

    75% chance of killing chemsitry and sending our team into oblivion, and jet off for another big contract and championship...sort like T.O.


    We really don't need Kobe, he will probably fit in well at first, but next year and year 3 will be the big problem.
     
  12. blazer_ben

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    I thought it said were a chance. i dont think it said anything about us being the frontrunners. i'm not complaining. kobe would be awesome for us. we get a leading number 1 option on offense. finally we get someone who isnt afraid to be the focal point. the offense will exclusively should run through kobe.
     
  13. Yaozer

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    It's surprising that this thread is still alive and kicking. Some of us has some really high hopes I guess. I don't think I'd ever want Tmac traded for Kobe.. I mean the guy went to see UH play today! He didn't say which side he was rooting for but cmon, everybody knows. He was wearing Red today :)
     
  14. jasonemilio

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    The YOF fans are the only ones igniting the fire on this stupid thread
     
  15. doublehh03

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    and then yao fans (yao_fan_2007) would complain about how yao averages 16-17 pts :confused:
     
  16. blazer_ben

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    Then they shouldnt be wanting kobe so much?. does he honestly think with kobe the biggest ball hog in the nba in our team, yao's numbers wont go down?. maybe then people will stop taking tracy and he's game for granted.
     
  17. rocketsregle

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    That is a lie.
     
  18. doublehh03

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    ok gimme one game where he was the CLEAR-CUT best single player in a playoff game, where he was the unquestioned start of that playoff game.
     
  19. Butterfingers

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    u remember the playoffs against the mavericks? the game he shot 13-15 for like 32 points and 14 rebounds? He dominated another game during that series also and i think one game during the Jazz. but instead of making US tell u why dont u go through the effort of looking it up for yourself.
     
  20. DOMINATOR

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    none, but i think that will change some this year. since yao will be counted on as distributing a little to the cutters plus scoring.
     

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