Yeah, lets get rid of this drug addict because lord knows that smoking weed is on par with doing crack cocaine! As for that Mo for Kenny Anderson trade, we have a PG, why would the Rockets want Kenny freakin' Anderson!? Speaking of crack, hey NugzFan, are the Nuggets management doing cocaine? Just wanted to know, because Kayman is proposing a deal to them and they're going to have to be on drugs to accept it. Just wondering. But since Duncan-to-Houston is such a forgone conclusion I propose sending Walt, KT, Cato, Moochie and a draft pick to Boston for Paul Pierce and Kenny Anderson. Walt gives Boston a veteran shooter and scorer, KT and Cato give them the interior players needed, and Moochie is a much better PG then Kenny Anderson, and he's younger. Sounds like a money deal for me, why hasn't Houston done that deal yet? Then we can turn around and send our lottery pick to Memphis for Paul Gasol.
Taylor can't be traded mainly because of his salary, his injury, and his softness. He's probably the softest 4 in the league bar none. On top of that , the money he makes plus he doesn't play hard. The Rockets best hope is to trade Thomas who has some trade value, put taylor on display nxt yr and hope someone sees enough to cough up a draft pick or a salary filler for him.
I don't want it to sound harsh, it's just that calling Mo a drug addict is REALLY harsh! And there is no way that some of these trade proposals go down.
I wish we could get Pierce. Do you think guys think Boston would do Steve Francis for Paul Pierce straight up? I don't think they would.
Why would we trade Steve for Paul Pierce? So we can have Cat run the point? There is a way to trade Mo T. But it's gotta include lots of goodies that we don't need, I.E., Kenny Thomas (very cheap contract, very good player), #5, and #14. For all this, what do we want? Your draft pick and a project C, or your draft pick and a backup C and backup PF. Cleveland, Chicago and Phoenix come to mind. Doleac Diop Illgauskas Hill Fizer Bagaric Bo Outlaw Cleveland's draft pick Phoenix's draft Of course, Chicago's draft pick (Ming) Lots of possibilities. Rockets better not dissapoint this offseason.
RocksMillenium, Spare us your pathetic attempts at being funny. You are not a comedian and you don't understand how the salary cap works, so your best bet would be to sit down and try to learn a thing or two. Kenny A. is valuable because his contract expires next season. If CD weren't such a r****d he would be on the phone trying to do this deal. C's will deal Kenny next season that's foregone. Everybody in Boston hates him. Taylor can put points up and he is a legit 6-9. C's may get a better offer but it's not certain. The Rocks at least should try. As for the Nuggs, I agree that it will be a hard sell to them, mostly because they are morons. They have big plans for Juwan's cap space in 2003, but they'll be in for a rude awakening when they realize that no respectful player will agree to play in such white and racist city, for such a crappy organization, for no-name coach and with a bunch of scrubs as supporting cast. Nick V. E. wanted to give away millions of dollars just to get the hell out of there. Deke is basically sleeping on his suitcases and counting down the days. The best thing the Nuggs can do with Juwan's cap space is to trade it for some players and for another lottery pick which is what the Rockets can offer.
I like Taylor so think the Rockets should keep him. Here's why. Taylor had a subpar season withe the Rockets last year with 13 ppg and 6 rpg. Whereas Kenny Thomas had a career year with 14 ppg and 7 rpg. A good season out of Taylor gets 18 ppg and 9 rpg, where as I do not see KT getting much beter than he is right now. KT is trade bait. The Rockets should unload him to make room for griffin.
JBII I like Mo-T also. However, after this injury, there is a posibility that he may not beat 13/6 again. KT surprised alot of us this year. He took advantage of the opportunity Mo-T's injury gave him. More than that, he was prepared to do it. Hard work and dedication in the off-season, paid off. Those are two things that Mo hasn't shown. Why do you find it so hard to believe, that KT will work hard this summer, and improve again? You say that Mo, after the injury, will do better than his last healthy season. It's not a given to me. I have serious doubt about it. Mo has alot to prove. Until he does, he takes a backseat to KT, in my book.
What's the obsession with trading for a player with an expiring contract? Once Steve signs his max extension, there's virtually no chance that we'll have cap room at any point in the next few years. Remember, for the cap room to really mean anything, you need to get in the 7-10 million range under the cap. If you're around 5 or so under, it doesn't matter too much, since you get a 4.5 million dollar exception for being over the cap. With Steve's new contract, the only way we could get significantly under the cap would be to essentially trade off every major contract and have Francis, Mobley, Griffin, and CBA players, all for the minor chance of landing a free agent. Considering the struggles of this year and the move to a new stadium, I doubt the Rockets sacrifice winning by trading away every major contract for the slight chance of landing a free agent.
wow i cant believe you just said that. have you noticed how the teams have played since the trade and how the players have done? im GUARANTEEING that mo/kt/bo trade is worse than ours was for denver. not even close. the trade is looking damn good for denver each day (howard, harvey, pick, and dumping bad bad contracts).
It took me awhile to get this, and I am not yet quite sure I have it right. You are one subtle dude. Anyway, I am not a nazi, but I have two problems with Mo's smoking weed. The first is that I don't remember a single championship team (maybe you do) where a player was implicated with drugs (even weed). On the other hands there are plenty of teams that have been destructed by this. The second problem I have is that if a guy signs a contract with an employer for that much money, you would expect the guy to comply with what the contract says. Tha contract says you will not smoke week, period. If Mo were just another 'hood bum and he got busted for posession of mar1juana, I would be the first to say "Leave the guy alone and go get some real crooks!" But he is not. He will be making 42 mil. It's not the old CB "I am not paid to be a role model" stuff. This guy is paid not to do weed. If he is so non-chalant about it how would you expect to do the other things that are asked of him. In that vein, a true professional would make sure to minimize the risk of injuries in his free time. Who knows maybe he was stoned when tore his Achiles. At this point I have zero confidence in this guy.
The whole point of getting a player with an expiring contract, is that they are usually making less than what they will get as a FA. And, the Rockets, I assume, would receive Bird rights, and the Rockets can go over the cap to re-sign. Like you said, Francis' impending deal would give us little to no cap space. So, the only way we can get a max-level player (making less than max) is by getting him for cheap. Unless we trade Francis for another max player.
Ever heard of Kareem Abdul-Jabbar? He smoked a lot of pot and won lots of rings. Taylor is no Jabbar, of course. Can you think of a team "destroyed" by smoking weed, though? I am personally more upset at players who invoke Jesus all of the time (as if God has a stake in a sporting event, yet not so much in, say, the Holocaust, or an earthquake, or something, but I digress...). Nevertheless, I can see how one can be upset at Taylor for jepordizing his career for something so trivial. I personally think that the drug laws in this country are too draconian and counter-productive. As a multi-million dollar athelete, however, Taylor should well know how important it is for him to stay clean. If Taylor can just grab two, or three more rebounds a game he can smoke all of Jeff Spicoli's stash for all I care.
Kareem Abdul Jabbar Bill Walton Vernon Maxwell Dennis Rodman (with two different teams) In addition, mar1juana wasn't on the league's banned substances list until the mid 90's. Charles Oakley said that 75 percent of the players in the league smoke it. Weed is less addictive and less destructive than alcohol. Yet, how many players you think abstain from drinking? Much ado about nothing.
One thing nobody's mentioned: I believe that MoT's a full baseyear salary player through the summer, and half-baseyear for the next? This'd make it real difficult to trade him. Beyond this, however, though he doesn't seem to be the 'prototypical' type of PF, and he definately has faults, the way he has behaved in the face of his problems has endeared him to me. A perfect contrast for me is the way the whole Scotty Pippen deal. The pimp, on the surface, was a good guy. He worked out hard, did the 'little things' on the court, and lived healthy. MoT, on the other hand isn't a tough rebounder, smokes the weed off the court, and was comming off a nasty dispute with his old team comming here. Unlike the Pimp, however, when he hit a little adversity, MoT accepted responability for his actions, decided to alter his behavior for best intrests of the team, and has moved forward. It sounds silly, but getting busted for drug violations has proved to me that MoT is a character guy. Remember, he spent about a quarter of the year playing center last year, without a complaint despite the fact that he was overmatched so often. Despite his flaws, therefore, I see him as a guy that you want on your team. Furthermore, despite being statistically similar to KT, MoT's points come through complimentary actions. When KT scores, he's usualy the focal point. Run an ISO and he drives. Many of MoT's points, on the other hand, were 'spread the floor' 20 foot jumper type plays from dishes from Steve. While statistically the same as KT, I hope people can understand how his particular offensive roll fits a 'whole team' offense much better than KT.
