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Trading Lin is better for the Rockets and Lin

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by catch22, Jan 18, 2013.

  1. HOU_ROCKETS1

    HOU_ROCKETS1 Member

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    nice post totally right we have to trade lin he does not fit on our team he cant shoot and is a turnover machine
     
  2. AggNRox

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    if not spot up 3, it means he has to have a few more times he has the ball in his hands.:grin:
     
  3. dobro1229

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    Not sure what analytics has to do with anything about this gameplan. It doesn't take a fancy spreadsheet to tell you what the Rockets gameplan should be.

    The Rockets have an offense built around their two best offensive players who thrive when they can attack the paint. You know what you need in order for them to attack the paint??... Space.

    In the long run, Im not sure this EXACT gameplan is the best moving forward, but for now they can definitely be very competitive if the 3 balls are falling, and they are rebounding on defense which allows them to push the ball in transition. If they stop shooting 3's, the defense packs the paint, and the two best offensive players Harden & Lin are not operating to the best of their abilities.
     
  4. BEAT LA

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    I like how some Lin fans want the Rockets to trade Lin when the Rockets start doing bad. Truth is, the guy didn't play basketball for 7 months after coming off an injury.

    The Rockets have a great training staff. I don't think any other team will help Lin regain his form and develop his game like the Rockets. I think he will be better, but he needs to get his 3 point shot up to 35%.

    It's not that. The Rockets only have Lin locked up for three seasons and he is getting paid the same each year (per books). If he gets to those numbers by his third year (likely) he will receive another large contract for 1 year of what we hoped he'd be.

    Most of us did not expect Linsanity.
    Most of us did not expect 12/6 on 27% three point shooting. His A/TO ratio is too high.
     
  5. pcheung08

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    Some non-Lin fans also wanted Lin to be traded as well. just saying.
     
  6. nickg

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    Yeah, he really does. Needs to work on his 3 range as well. But I don't see why they have harden dominating the ball so much. Yes, he is extremely effective ( and no I'm not going to be one of the dumb ****s trying to put Lin above him ) but there is no reason he can't play off the ball. He's good at it, a good shooter, and will get him some much easier looks instead off driving through a swarm of defenders focused on him. Doesn't have to be the hard way evry ****ing possession.

    I also have no ****ing clue why they don't use the harden and Lin pnr more often. Do they not see how how effective it is? They used it quite a bit during the winning streak, now hardly at all until the 4th last game.
     
  7. gate470

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    *slams head against the wall. NO ONE is asking Lin to be the #1 scorer. He still played well in NY when he wasn't the #1 option. Most PG's are ball dominant and most aren't the #1 scorer.
     
  8. Type Raba

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    i know the league as a whole is shooting more 3s but it seems our team is just way too dependent on it... that's why i mentioned analytics. the whole 3s being a better shot than mid/long 2s, etc. imo it takes out too much of the human element and that is what wins you rings, not crunching numbers...
     
  9. gate470

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    Are these PG's or players from all positions? Sounds like it's players from all positions. If so, you're not doing a very good job of countering the original post.
     
  10. kozmo

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    Im telling you youre right, Lins numbers would increae and so would harden. there simply is not a big on this team that can finish, can catch teh ball.....defense and a big is the problem with the rockets
     
  11. gate470

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    Forgive some of the members, they don't get out of clutch fans much.
     
  12. Second_Cousin

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    Why do you have 38 in quotations? He scored 38 pts against the Lakers last year and Spurs this year, I don't recall the NBA putting an asterisk on either of those two games.

    He is learning to play off the ball... but he is the point guard (supposedly), so he should have the ball in his hands most, no?
     
  13. jocar

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    I dare you to say that here.. http://www.jeremylin.net/2013/01/rockets-mavs-game-40-2nd-half-game.html (do not view these game threads for more than 5 min, if you don't like getting pissed off)
    heads will explode, and you will be banned

    Good you said 'probably', someone mighta went medieval on ur ass!

    And about this thread........ it's dumb.
     
  14. Aleron

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    A Sacramento ownership group would be scraping for cash and might consider it, a Seattle ownership group would be the most cashed up ownership group in the nba, so I don't see them doing it.
     
  15. i meow a lot

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    i would still give Lin another year before giving final verdict. everyone is too impatient these days.
     
  16. gate470

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    That site is unbearable because it's run like a blog rather than a forum. You are obsessed with it. It's a player only site, if you don't like the player, don't go there.
     
  17. Da_Spark

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    Giving up on Lin this early is such a knee-jerk reaction. Remember when Russell Westbrook was once known as Russell Westbrick? He didn't have a jumper and led the league in turnovers but look at what he turned into. I'm not saying Jeremy Lin will eventually turn into a Russell Westbrook but at least give him one or two seasons to develop.

    Lin is playing with a new team, new teammates, a system where he's being utilized as a 3pt shooter, and also playing with a team with zero players capable of running the pick & roll with him.
     
  18. dobro1229

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    Not to derail this thread(even though its been beaten to death a million times)

    but...

    This is true to a certain extent, but it doesn't mean that if they somehow acquired a big that could shoot jumpers(ala LaMarcus Aldridge) that they wouldn't adjust the gameplan to suit the talent they have.

    All they are doing now is highlighting the attributes of the best players they have... which just so happen to be attacking guards. I dont think analytics make a difference at all in this situation.

    Morey has always said that being a GM is like blending art with science. The data isn't the end all be all, but it can help. You would be dumb to only pay attention to one and not the other. I dont know why there is this stigma that analytics guys do this.

    Mark Cuban himself credited analytics for helping gameplan against the Heat in the finals a couple of years ago. It can't win you a title by itself, but it is a tool that can help.

    This current gameplan is designed to do 1 thing and one thing only... space the floor to let their best offensive players attack the basket. It doesn't take a statistician to tell you that's the easiest way for this team to put points up on the board.
     
  19. jocar

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    I've been there a total of 3 times for sh1ts n giggles. Obsession is more like what you have going with one of our players.
     
  20. CaptainRox

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    I'm all Lin. I berieve
     

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