Trading for a Superstar, a real strategy?

Good points. You can't really stick religiously to just one strategy, anything can happen. DM is keeping his all bases covered.

 

DD, I would just try the Detroit method and see how that works before blowing up the ship. That would require 4 all star quality players and young depth behind them. I would try to get Iggy and prince this year and ride it out for the next 4 yrs and see what happens. Martin and something for iggy, whatever else for prince. Resign Yao,brooks,and prince and go to battle to see what happens. Use the picks for upside guys and depth. I think Brooks,Iggy,Prince,scola,Yao with hill,chase or lee, lowry or ish, and other picks would really balance the lineup and give the team flexibility.

 

Rockets need to go the Seattle SuperSonics/Orlando route. Just rebuild. Sure it'll suck for the next few years but as of now I dont believe the Rockets have enough.Trying to remain relevant amongst the true contenders of the league w/out the right personnel is futile. Sure its a waste of a good coach but what can you do?

That said if Morey can pull off a franchise saving trade well I wont complain about that. Just make sure to keep our young players especially our current high flying ones. Those are the players we currently have that have the ability to make game changing plays. Trade away our "go along" players for more of that and Im sure we'll find the state of Rockets bball to be on the way up much sooner. Then find that one player who everyone can play off of and we are set.

 

superstars don't get overpaid.

 

I posted this trade idea before the draft, mostly one-side towards us, of course.

http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showpost.php?p=5377003&postcount=34

 

Well i have 2 plans:

Plan A: Rebuild though draft. Land Enes Kanter AND Ricky Rubio.

Plan B: Keep using same strategy and land Smith/Wallace.

This team has to many one dementinal players and needs players who are two way players both sides of the court (Iggy). To stay competetive, they'll need two way players like Josh Smith and Gerald Wallace.

First you have to see who is available and see what the team lacks. It lacks a closer (Landry) AND more two way players. Smith and Wallace would strengthen our play on both sides of the court.

Sign Carl Landry.

 

not entirely a myth. they're still acquired...the player just has a say in who is going to acquire him. but assuming you're on his short list, you gotta have the assets necessary to turn the deal.

 

One of the best ways to attract stars is to win. That's what the Rockets are trying to do. They're fielding a team with sufficient depth to where they have a shot at being pretty good, even without a real superstar. If we make some noise in the playoffs -- win a round or two -- other players will take notice.

 

you're singing my song. hamstrung.

 

This is a long thread, so if someone answered your question already, my apologies.

On the realgm 76ers forum, there is a well-respected poster, seems to have the inside info. Which generally means reporting what is going on at the team's brain trust, usually amounting to things that don't happen. But I think he reported their trade for Nocioni before it happened. Etc.

The deal was for Brand and the #2 pick. But it was Philadelphia that backed out, not Morey. The particulars on our end were never revealed; the poster probably didn't know.

Morey must have reeeeeeeeeaaaaaally wanted Favors or Turner, agreeing to take on Brand's deal.

 

I, honestly, believe that if we don't turn it around with Yao then the turning point for the this era was losing Yao after the Laker's series. The team had made the Lakers look lazy and silly at times and had crazy buzz going around but the moment Yao was lost for the year, the team bascially became the little engine that could.

Superstars want to go to well oiled machines or prefered destinations (NY, LA, Miami), not little engines that could, we are going to have to win a playoff series or two before ANY SUPERSTAR would want to come play here. A guy just looking to get out of hell like Iggy, Wallace or even Josh Smith is different but the guys like Melo and Paul aren't going to want to come play here, just yet.

 

I would but no more then 3 yrs - 30 million, Yao is still doing very well for the minutes his playing but the guy can't be the guy anymore, instead just another piece to the puzzle. Still make the trades we've discussed, Rubio/Draft, and build around those guys along with whoever is left after the moves.

 

I don't think Morey's strategies (or most GMs for that matter) are inflexible as we might think. I really doubt Morey is against getting a star player through the draft at all, there just isn't any point ignoring any deals for star players now in hopes of hitting the draft. You can't get lucky in the draft right now.

And yes, trading for a star player and being successful about it is rare, but so is trading down into the top view picks to get a star player. I can think of few cases were that worked.

Teams like OKC and Orlando turned it around through the draft, and yes, they traded away great players...but they got thier star through the draft by sucking with the great players they eventually traded.

 

I once braught up the Brand/2nd pick deal before it even surfaced within the orginization and everybody thought i was crazy, but now look do i look crazy for bringing that up last year? The thing is now we know Morey is not affraid to eat salary to grab a top pick and Brand has a 'no trade clause' in his contract so it was probably he who rejected the deal.

 

Elton certainly has returned to form this season, unless he REALLY likes Philly, I would think he'd kill to get out of there. Brand is the kind of guy who would be cool coming to Houston, IMHO. I think Philly probably just had second thoughts about giving up #2 pick and nixed the move. Imagine a front line of Yao, Scola, Cousins and Brand...WOW.

 

Please name the players you're talking about.