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Trading for a Superstar, a real strategy?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by DaDakota, Nov 9, 2010.

  1. Rocket4Life11

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    True that. I believe they will get there though. Time and patience.
     
  2. Rocket4Life11

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    I wouldn't say struggling, they did make it to the ECF without him.
     
  3. MadMax

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    you think this team is going to play the level of defense that Pistons squad did? really?
     
  4. Jeff Who

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    Very good post DD, agreed 100%.

    No superstar want to come to Houston, too smal market, no love from national television, etc.

    Maybe that is Morey's strategy, but if it he, he is dead wrong.
     
  5. jopatmc

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    The first thing you have to consider is what legitimate superstars are possibly going to be available.

    Lebron-no
    Wade-no
    Bosh-no
    Kobe-no
    Gasol-no
    Nash-possibly
    Paul-possibly
    Melo-possibly
    Dirk-no (not now)
    DHoward-no
    Durant-no
    Roy-no (at least not right now)
    DWill-no (at least not right now)

    Rubio- possibly
    ........

    and then you have the next tier of players that include the likes of Iggy, Gerald Wallace, etc., who are not superstars but are just a notch under stuperstars.


    Who do I put Rubio on the list? Because I firmly believe Morey believes he is a superstar. And I believe he is a superstar.

    So, obviously if the Melo/Paul plan unfolds to NY, then our next best option may be ......... Rubio.
     
  6. conquistador#11

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    Most of today's superstars, would rather form alliances than rivalries. The only player I would want to trade for is Granger. He's awesome on defense and offense. Did I mention Defense? Marc Gasol also, would love to acquire him.

    I mean Carmelo is one nutter butter cookie away from having lala's physique. We don't need him.

    And if Martin keeps scoring and remains injury free..why can't he be our superstar? He can shoot and flop with the best of them. Just give him a blog and find him an entourage and you got your superstar.

    There is also that Argentine dude, I hear he's pretty awesome.
     
  7. Rocket4Life11

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    Yep...they were a top 5 defensive team. I believe the Rox can get there.
     
  8. marky :)

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    ^ I agree with u putting Roy as not of right now status. But if both Portland and Houston arent where theyre suppose to be at the deadline I think Roy would be our best choice/option
     
  9. marky :)

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    The ^ was directed to jpat post
     
  10. rockets934life

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    Brandon Roy isn't going ANYWHERE, why would the Blazers move him since he is their franchise? They are playing good ball and have a deep core, no way he goes anywhere anytime soon.

    DWill on the other hand....
     
  11. rpr52121

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    I realize this post is smeared in sarcasm, but for the point of argument:

    For a back court player to be a true championship-cornerstone superstar, they HAVE to be able to either score or make plays for other players in the last 5 minutes of the game. Of course, no one will make every play in every game, but more often than not they get the job done.

    Martin has seemed to be MIA in these situations so far, either because of scheme, his own personality, lack of confidence, or other players taking control for good or worse.

    For a front court player to be a true championship-cornerstone superstar, they HAVE to be a game changer on Defense and in Rebounding. That is where they turn themselves into a superstar. Some of them can score in crunch time, but that is always dependent on their teammates getting them the ball in a good spot dealing with double teams. Fact is that it is easier to prevent a post player from impacting a game offensively in crunch time. That superstar however can make opportunities with rebounding, especially offensive, and defensively getting stops that win those close games.

    That completely does not define Scola. He can score in crunch time, and he inconsistently does a good job rebounding on the offensive glass. He is subpar defensively.
     
  12. CheezeyBoy22

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    I really think DWill will be available sooner rather than later. He has issues with the direction of the team. He wanted them to keep Boozer and focus on trading Millsap for a wing player. He also wasn't happy when they traded away Brewer.

    I just seen too much of him not caring for how the Franchise is being ran to see him being there longterm. He's already made a fuss this season as well. I think he could really be a big piece but I can't see Utah trading him to Houston. I think Houston will have to wait till his contract is up and I think that's 2012.
     
  13. MightyMog

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    Save your money, we got Dwill Shakur in our D-League.

    We also can bring back Mike Harris for the 5th time...

    Superstar PG and PF in the making.
     
  14. Rockets4279

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    They will need to draft one plain and simple. I would put the direction of the organization as uncertain at this point. I don't think they even have a strategy and are just doing it day by day and waiting to see what happens.
     
  15. moreyball

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    I think the rockets learned a lesson when they had 2 elite players in Yao and T-Mac: Don't rely on just 2 players. I think they are going the alternate route by being as deep of a team as possible and being able to win without an elite player. Also, contrary to popular opinion, I don't think Morey is gathering all these assets in order to deal them. I really believe he is just getting all these young players to develop them into great players and he is getting all these draft picks (New York's and Toronto's) in order to find talent himself in the draft. I think Morey finds great pleasure in scouting and finding hidden gems in the draft, therefore I don't think he will trade that away. Anyways, point being is that management is not desperate for a superstar. If a great opportunity comes along, then you pull the trigger, but if it doesn't then it's ok because we have a ton of draft picks and morey knows how to use them. One final point, morey is not in a win-now mode. He will be our GM for a very long time, so he is not going to mortgage our future for a washed up or injury prone superstar because that will limit him in the future. He is thinking long-term rather than short term. This is all.
     
  16. Rashmon

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    Not so cleverly disguised please, please, please don't trade Aaron Brooks because no one understands his role on the Rockets like I do thread.
     
  17. BasketballReasons

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    I agree, its way to hard to trade for a superstar, you need to get one through the draft.
    Get as much first round picks as you can, develop your scouts (apparently ours and Spurs are pretty good) and pray that you hit a home-run.

    Right now we have significant amount of "good young players that will be solid starters/role-players" to make a trade in the draft to move up or simply get the pick. I'm thinking of Jordan Hill, Budinger, Lowry, Brooks, Scola, etc.

    The problem is I have the feeling that the organisation hasn't really chose there path yet:"Accept that the Ming experiment is a failiure and move on and rebuild" or "Continue and try to land a superstar in a trade somehow".
     
  18. DaDakota

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    Rashmon, let's not spoil a great discussion, please.

    And I would happily trade AB for the right piece, I would trade anyone on the rosters if I thought it made the team better.

    I just don't think there are honestly that many trades to be had that do that.

    You know I think you may be on to something and this sounds really close to what is happening.

    Well spoken.

    That is IT !!! That is kind of how I feel, that rather than having a real plan of action, they have a plan of hope.

    That they HOPE that Yao is healthy and can lead the team (as do I etc) the problem is that while Yao is here, his history does not go away, and any real superstat would shy away because of that.


    DD
     
  19. MrButtocks

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    We have the Knicks pick next year and a swap this year, none of which are guaranteed to be lotto. Other than that, how are we supposed to draft a superstar with our low picks? We already nabbed Brooks with the 24th, Landry with the 31st, and Budinger with the 44th. That's a good bounty, but none of them are superstars.

    Let's not forget that efforts to nab Rubio and Cousins via the draft have been panned by the board at large.
     
  20. durvasa

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    So you're saying the Rockets need to cut the cord with Yao after this year?
     

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