You don't get it, <b>artificial</b>. By the way your write, you are obviously NOT a Rockets fan. The reaction here is similar to when someone criticizes a member of your family. You know your family, and get down on them when you don't like what they are doing, but if someone outside your family comes in a criticizes them, you stand up and defend them. We are obviously dissappointed in EG this year, but few of us would trade him, unless we got back all-star quality in return. Most of us were thrilled with the trade with NJ, and NJ should have been thrilled with their side of the deal. Unfortunately, NJ was stupid with their other picks after Jefferson. Imagine if you had picked Jefferson/Randolf/Parker or Jefferson/Wallace/Tinsley or some variation thereof. Even Haywood or Woods would have been better than Collins, and everyone in the country knew that. And Tinsley, Wallace or Parker were certainly better than Armstrong, and everyone in the country seemed to know that. NJ just threw away those last 2 picks. Yes, Jefferson has turned out well, but the Rockets would never have been stupid enough to pick who NJ did for their 2nd two picks, and if NJ had picked better, we might have thought the trade went worse than it did. At the time, NJ didn't need a PF, since they already HAD Martin and KVH, and Griffin was considered by many before the draft the #1 pick. The concern about Griffin was due to the fights he had with his teamates in HS and his one year in college. The only reason he slid, was because of concern about his attitude. Well, his attitude has turned out to be great. No problems there. If everyone had known that was how it would turn out, he would never have slid. So, yes, we're not happy with his lack of aggression this year, but everyone is adjusting to Ming, including EG, and once he figures out how to play next to him, muscles up and gains his confidence, we believe we're going to see a steady diet of how he played in the first quarter of the Miami game. Your statement about the Rockets wanting to trade him, has NEVER been expressed by Rockets management, and is pure BS on your part. In fact, as someone has already mentioned, even when Taylor had his first great game after his injury the other day, Rudy referred to EG as "our future at PF." That had to be difficult for Taylor to hear, but great for EG. Houston was in rebuilding mode, and needed a franchise PF/SF, and it was entirely appropriate for Houston to pick the best player, not adding depth. NJ needed to add depth, so it was appropriate they trade one potentially great player for 3 good players. It should have been a great trade for both teams. The fact that NJ threw away 2 of the picks is what will make the trade in the future one that people will consider the Rockets came out ahead on.
EG = '05 All Star. He's a kid, and destined to be as great as his basketball soul directs. I'd bet on greatness. Offer me Brand, right now, and I'm good to go. But -- this team and no other team can beat the team that beat the Nets last nite. Can that team show for a championship run? Probably.
the only reason RJ looks good now is because of J Kidd....EG will be an overall better player in the future....he's only 20 man.....
The fact that he had has two years of college experience on him helps as well. I agree, Kidd makes everyone around him better. I mean how else do you explain Lucious Harris being a contributor?
artificial, you sound just like you belong with the Chicago Bulls organization. You know the one that trades Artest and Brad Miller for Jalen Rose. Give young players with potential time to develop or you might regret it in the long run.
Um, congratulations. The Rockets sure do sound like they're planning on trading Griffin. From the Chronicle only 5 days ago (even before he showed a glimpse of his ability in the Orlando game 1st quarter). "The No. 1 thing was it was very hard for all three to play -- impossible, I thought," coach Rudy Tomjanovich said. "When I tried to play all three, I think it hurt all three. The other thing is the other two guys, I think, are very good players, too, but Eddie, he's our future. "I think he's a long ways from a finished product. He's only 20. But I think he can compete right now and help us right now. As the years go by, Eddie's going to add so much to his game, and we're going to help him along with that." Yep, "he's our future" is definitely synonymous with "we're going to trade him probably by this offseason. Please go look at the other thread with the person who just bashes EG without basis. Go find my posts, and you'll see how Griffin's numbers are up in every statistical category. Go read the article, and see how the staff gushes over EG's potential, and what they think will be the realization of it. Please don't spew rehashed arguments, and then troll with comments like "Very touching. Bunch of die-hard EG lovers", rather than arguments you can prove like stats, hard quotes, or game analysis. That's what being a troll is.
man, did someone blow up a mountain or tear down a bridge or two? Where did all these trolls come from?
Eddie's going nowhere. Rome wasn't built in a day. Eddie Griffin's raw game is not refined in a single season.
I believe in fundamental skills. EG is merely atheletic. Rudy realizes skills are rather more important now partly because the NBA legalizes the zone defense. I think in Rudy's mind, he would prefer a consistent and solid European player over a young kid like EG. The Mavericks now are dying to sign a guy from France. Signing foreign talents would become more prevlant in the NBA because the coaches start to realize the HS kids don't provide the instant impact like the foreign players and many of them don't live up to their expectation. Who would you have, P.Gasol or EG??
It must have been one of the mountains from The Lord of the Rinds because these trolls are EVERYWHERE!
I listened to Rudy's show yesterday. He said EG was going to be very good in this league. I don't know what show artificial was talking about. Maybe a little birdie was whispering in his ear.
Troll, your arguments are weak and or nonsensical. a.) What the hell does the Mavericks' attempt to sign a French swingman have to do with Eddie Griffin? About as much as the price of tea (or in the Rockets' case, beer) in China. b.) As far as EG, skills, and the zone defense...umm, what exactly are you trying to say? Having a game changing shotblocker like EG is good on the defensive side of a zone D. Having outside shooting is a way to combat the zone defense. How many starting PFs (or PFs in general) have a better three point shot than Griffin? By percentage, all I see are Nowitzki, Garrity, and Rasheed Wallace Did you not read the article I linked you? The coaching staff agrees that the reason Griffin's instant impact isn't that great right now is not his basketball skills, it's his physique and age. As for EG or Pau Gasol- explain to me when we had the choice. Gasol had the offense run instantly through him, and received pro experience in Europe. Basing those situations is like using KG's first year, compared to Gasol's and saying "would you rather have Garnett or Gasol" which is an even bigger gap. Would you rather have Cuttino Mobley or Tracy McGrady? PS-There have been plenty of HS players that surpassed expectations. Jermaine O'Neal, Garnett, Kobe, Rashard TMac, and now Harrington and Bender are emerging. How many examples can you give me of busts? Korleone Young?
I guess if you were listening to Rudy's show yesterday you would know that we had that Euro player that the Mavs are after in camp a few years back. Have you heard? Gasol could be had for the right deal? EG is here for good unless we get a franchise type player.
With games like tonight it makes you laugh at threads like this. Its only a couple of good games, but things sometimes dont turn out like there suppost to.
