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Trading Aaron Brooks

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Rileydog, Feb 8, 2010.

  1. LosPollosHermanos

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    A bit hypocritical on your part? You call me out for bashing Yao but you bash Brooks all the time?

    And for your information i bash mcgrady too. I don't like Yao and I don't like Mcgrady, if you choose to be a fan of theirs for what ever reason go ahead and do so but they don't make the rockets better imo, which goes back to why I don't like them if I have to break it down to this point.

    I'm sorry if you're overly sensitive when it comes to these things but I don't feel I have anything to apologize for. If you can't handle someone disliking Yao even though he doesn't play for the damn team I could care less but I will voice my opinion whatever it may be.

    The reason I lost my cool is because Its so blatantly obvious why you can't have Lowry starting over brooks and it has gotten to the point of beating a dead horse. DD probably feels the same exact way. You make me sound like a lowry antagonist when he is in fact one of my fav players.
     
  2. REEKO_HTOWN

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    AB sure looks Elite out there doesn't he DD.

    Your boy Bud too.
     
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  3. Yak

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    It's okay.

    These kinds of games are expected for someone who's only starting his 71st game. :rolleyes:

    Good thing you don't need a conventional PG to win in this league.

    You only need incredibly streaky small SGs who are compared to Tony Parker but don't have nearly the finishing ability.
     
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  4. J.R.

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    Tell 'em Reeko! And I thought Brooks outplays mostly every PG he plays? Hah! :eek:
     
  5. choujie

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    You can call Yao out as much as you like, but he's a whole lot better than AB and he makes much bigger impact than AB when he's healthy.

    I don't insult people when they bash Yao , unlike you, I only debate.

    You might have problem with your eyes. I have stated more than 10 times that AB should start on this team, Didn't you see that? Find a post by me where I said Lowry should start on current team?

    See? You have made a false claim again.

    But if you have any sense at all, you should know AB is not untouchable, far from it.

    And if you have any sense at all, you should know with a different make of this team, it's not such a crime to start Lowry and it's not a crime to play AB as Jason Terry or Manu Ginobilli role. It all depends what moves Morey makes in the future.

    BTW, You made youself sound like a lowry antagonist, but I don't feel sorry for you. I didn't make that happen. I don't control what you type.
     
  6. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Chou has made TONS of posts about Lowry being the starter, just do a search he is a known Lowry over Brooks guy.

    DD
     
  7. choujie

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    You can't take the condition away, DD.

    Lowry starts only when we have enough firepower in starting lineup. That's what I've been said since very early this season. This starting lineup missing 40 mil on offense needs AB's offense more than Lowry's overall play.


    But you should see from this game:

    1. Brooks is not an all star yet, and he's far from untouchable.

    2. Ariza was the scapegoat for all those losses. He is fine as a MLE player. He provided the 2nd ball handler in starting lineup even though it's beyond his capability. And he provids decent defense.

    3. Lowry's impact is underrated. Our bench played like crap in all the games Lowry missed.

    4. Cbud has the tools to be good, but he's not ready yet.

    5. Play Landry and Cbud alongside AB doesn't make his assists go up like you said. AB doesn't make them look better either.
     
  8. DaDakota

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    No, you are all over that Lowry should start over Brooks thread, parts 1, 2, and 3....you and Wrongicon...

    DD
     
  9. choujie

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    LOL, DD. AB still should start on current team. But the day Lowry start, it means Rox got the players with firepower and the team is more balanced, in other words, more closer to Championship.
     
  10. DaDakota

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    Ahhhhhchoujie !

    Bless you.

    You are wrong again.

    DD
     
  11. J.R.

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    Brooks very ariza-esque tonight. And he is elite, and beats the other PG almost every time? Very homerish or very ignorant. He is inconsistent. As I pointed out and asked earlier, besides his scoring, what else does Brooks do well that helps the team out?

    3-16 tonight, 1-4 on 3 pters, 1 reb, 1 ast, 1 stl, 4 TO 10 pts.
    :eek:

    He is a score first PG. Nothing wrong with, but when you can't help out in any other areas, uhh that's not necessarily a good thing.
     
  12. leebigez

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    Those who want lowry starting should just forget what we watched in the playoffs last yr and forget what we see this yr. I like lowry as a player, but he's like earl watson to me. He needs play finishers around him to be effective. Brooks is a playmaker and finsher himself. Too many posters get into the traditional positional stuff. When was the last time one of those types have been om a ring team?

    Back in the day it was 2 guards,2 forwards, and a center. Both guards could start the offense,shoot,pass and stuff. Bibby and porter were more scorer than pg. I still dont understand this debate.
     
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  13. krockets

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    Yes, Brooks is a very bad playmaker and a good finisher. I like Brooks for his scoring, but just like Lowry, Brooks has his own defect, he needs a good decision maker in the group to make him effective. In the last 8 years of championship teams, the PGs are all very good decision makers: Parker, Fisher, Billups, Jason William...
     
  14. choujie

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    Jason Williams is not a good decisiom maker. But Wade was the one who handled the ball the most.

    Fisher is average, but Kobe was the one who handled the ball the most.

    Ball should be in the best decisiom maker's hands as much as possible. In Rockets case, it used to be Tmac, now it's Lowry. AB is the best perimeter finisher, a SG in PG's body who can handle and shoot the ball real well. But not the smartest decision maker at this moment.
     
  15. Hball

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    Which is why he and T-mac would have been a good fit playing together.

    T-mac's a great passer and brooks is a great shooter( D*** Adelman's screwing the the team up)
     
  16. krockets

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    If you notice, I used the words "decision maker", not "play maker". Fisher is above average and J William is average in playmaking, but they both are pretty good at knowing when to defer to Kobe/Wade and when to shoot the ball themselves..
     
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    Sorry. You can decorate it as you like, the story is that a team with Brooks as starting PG will never be a contender team.

    When Yao returns, we'll see again the same we saw last playoffs. A PG ignoring the best player of his team, upstaging him. A PG unable to read defenses, making ton of bad decisions, bad shots, criminal turnovers... And yes, some points. Lowry will make Yao a better player, will make us a better defensive team. A smarter team, a tougher team. Better at rebounding, better at fastbreak... Brooks as much has the potential of the typical star of a mediocre team.

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    Artest and Brooks...
     
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  18. MightyMog

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    I feel like punching someone. As much as its AB or Artest's fault, Yao should demand the damn ball. I still remember that game and getting 4 shots is inexcusable. If you want to win you throw it to your best player and let him do something with it, if your best player doesn't get the ball, he needs to tell people "Give me the fking ball"
     
  19. choujie

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    AB has improved since then, but he doesn't have to pass the ball to post this season. Last season it was kind of a misfit. AB and Yao's game don't match.

    let's see what happens next season.
     
  20. ibm

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    wow, sure missed some fun while i was away from this board.

    build "around" ab? really? i am so surprised it is written by a senior member. if it's not a grammar problem, it just shows what blind faith in a player can do to fans. (but if you meant "play around ab this season", then i apologize.)

    and ab "a play maker"? why would folks make a player they personally like into something he is not?

    ab is a scorer, and a real good one. and that's pretty much it. therefore, when he is scoring (w/ efficiency), he's helping the team a great deal; when he is not, he's not helping much. and his ceiling is probably 5-10% from the current status imo.

    time will tell. we shall see.
     
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