You must have missed the thread suggesting we trade for Tyson Chandler and move him to Shooting Guard.
Smart man I like your thinking. Its true. I don't understand this but if Management are trying to move or about to move one injury prone player why not move the other one also and build a better team. Not saying Yao isn't a good player but to repeatedly go through the same injuries over and over is not good. Its really frustrating to hear the same thing over and over about your so called franchise player. How are you going to win anything when your players are constantly hurt. It looks like Mac is on his way out tonight and what they plan on receiving is another injury prone player In Morey we trust right Get rid of all the injury prone players and make this team better.
I'd trade Yao in order to get Thabeet in a heart beat! No question! These days you don't need a top center to get over the top any way. THis is a PF's game now days. Centers aren't the important pieces they once were because their aren't any good centers anymore hardly. And anyone who thinks that Yao Ming is the best center in the league needs their head examined and can't be taken seriously if they really think that Yao is better than Howard or Jefferson for the Timberwolves. Jefferson is a much better player than Yao right now. Much younger, stays healthy more, and has much better numbers. It isn't even close. Yao's days are over. 3 straight seasons of injury and now being out indefinitely is all I need to see from this point forward. I'm so sick of hearing the whole statement "IF YAO MING CAN STAY HEALTHY............." Y'all know the rest. Even if he can, he's never "led the team past the first round until this season and this team was stacked and Artest was actually the leader and backbone of this team. Yao is the only guy with any real trade value where we could set the Rockets up for some nice success for the next 4 or 5 years. That window will be closed after this season when he goes down again though. Next year, mark my words Morey will be begging teams to take him off their hands, and we won't hardly get near what we could right now for him.
This is absolutely ridiculous. He is nearly a 20 and 10 guy, commands the double team, plays solid D as a big man, make good passes, can shoot outside, led this team to the playoffs, played 77 games this season, made it to the all star game every year he's been in the league (sat out one), earned one all nba second team, and 2 all nba third team. If YOU want to be impartial, look at the stats. He was having a monster season 2 years ago before getting hurt. People were ready to crown him the MVP. You also realize that people get hurt, that is part of the game. You realize that his first 3 seasons he played played 244 games? Missing only 2 games. He doesn't have a reoccurring chronic injury. He sprains his ankle, or someone lands on his knee, etc. Yah, that's completely his fault. Oh man, it is as bad as TMAC's back. You mention big names like Dwyane Wade. Lets look at how often HE gets hurt? Hmmmm, not a SINGLE SEASON where he played all 82 games. 80 games? nope. Wanna know how much? 61, 77, 75, 51, 51, 79. Compare to Yao's 7 years in the league. 82, 82, 80, 57, 48, 55, 77. You want someone to blame for not winning championships? Look somewhere else. Last I remembered...IT TAKES 5.
I'm still waiting on one of you to explain how Les making "China money" brings other top players here or has put us in a better position to build a top championship calibur team. Are you that ignorant that you think that some top player says to himself "You know the Rockets are making all of that money in China so I might want to go play for them?" Lol! Players around the league don't give a damn about what Les Alexander makes in China, so why the hell do you!??? Are you rooting for Alexander's net worth, or are you rooting for the Rockets? WHich one is it?
Just wanted to pop-in to say that Texx is making some valid points. I don't care how good Yao is - it's similar to McGrady. No matter how good he is, if he can't stay on the court for the playoffs he's as good as worthless. Also, with the NBA's revenue sharing, many of you are hysterically overrating what $$$$$ he brings to the team and then brutally criticizing anyone who questions it. Get over yourselves. I love the guy's personality and integrity. I said after that famous TNT Laker-series scene that I'd never say anything bad about him again. Well, I'm not saying anything bad about him. It's just reality.
Are you a r****d? Al Jefferson 04-05 BOS 71 05-06 BOS 59 06-07 BOS 69 07-08 MIN 82 08-09 MIN 50 Yao 02-03 HOU 82 03-04 HOU 82 04-05 HOU 80 05-06 HOU 57 06-07 HOU 48 07-08 HOU 55 08-09 HOU 77
Yao for Amare would be a great trade in my opinion, but yeah for Thabeet would be great as well! It doesn't make sense to trade a good young PG and a good young PF when all we need is a reliable big man that can stay healthy for the future. Kepping Yao Ming from this point on only sets this franchise back more and more. We have to get out of this Tmac/Yao experiment. It's been a failure and it's time to move on and get younger and find guys that can stay healthy. Rolling with Yao as one of your corner stone pieces as this point is like playing Russian Roullette.
I love how you didn't post their numbers. At this point in their careers Jefferson is an up and coming star, while Yao is a fading star who has been over rated any way.
Yeah. Damn everyone who thinks a non-healing foot fracture on a 7'6 bigman with a long injury history is a cause for alarm. Keep Yao, trade Yao, as long as we win I don't care.
To be honest, you trade Yao NOW, you would get a lot in return. You have to trade Yao to a team YAO WANTS TO stay. Otherwise he won't re-sign with the new team. For example, You think you can ask for Rose + Deng + Thomas by trading Yao + brooks + Hayes? Why Yao wants to stay in that Chicago team? Why the Bulls do it if they know Yao will definetly walk in a year?
This thread should be locked. Not only has this topic been discussed thoroughly before, but trading Yao won't happen in the near future. Not only does Les and Morey not want to trade Yao, but other teams know this fact enough that they aren't even inquiring about Yao.
You say that Yao is has the most value as far as tradeable asset. soooo.. Question: Why do you think any other team would want him? This could possibly answer your own question of why the Rockets still have him. and boom goes the dynamite.
Excellent post man! Which is the exact opposite of the OP. I like how the moment ANYTHING negative goes out about Yao, an injury or a single bad game, the microscope gets even finer and the selective vision gets even more selective. The guy has year in and year out proven to be the BEST center in the league, and yet some people still hate on him. It blows my mind when I hear people say "I'm tired of his 12 point performances in the playoffs". Are you kidding? How much of that is Yao's fault? And how much of that is the team's fault for not getting him the ball or the opponent's fault for dictating their ENTIRE defensive philosophy on how to shut down YAO? Yea let's trade him, it's always a bad thing when a team has to invest 2 or 3 defenders just to guard one man.... Its funny though, the OP says trade Yao..OK let's trade Yao. Who do you want for him? You've basically made him out to be an average NBA player so let's get a bunch of average NBA guys for him...that deal the Suns got for Shaq sounds right up your alley. Nooo thats not enough? Oh you want: but wait... Yea that makes sense, so Yao is all these things but has good trade value? That's what I find funny, people want to trade Yao because he sucks but they want to get good value back in return because apparently he doesnt suck at the same time.