Since the JAZZ need to make the minimum salary, maybe they would take Cato, MoT & Moochie for AK, Ostertag & Stevenson.
AK is supposedly untouchable. they think he has more upside than eddie. i can see them moving MH but not him. dont get me wrong. he is #1 on my list of players i want to pick up this offseason. moT for AK may work. it w0ould leave uys very thin upfront with yao eddie and AK. but we can always trade rice for a bruiser. also! dumping mo's contract for AK will give us some extra money to spend. (only in a trade i think)
I'm sure Utah is sitting by the phone waiting for us to offer our three bad contracts for their best player. Utah's desperate to take on salary, but don't you think that they can get more for AK than that?
"Jake (Milwaukee): Do you see the Jazz making any trades in the near future? Or do you think they will sign a couple of role players just to meet the minimum salary requirements. Is AK-47 due for a breakout year, Stevenson?? Marc Stein: The Jazz, Nuggets and Heat will all have plenty of trade opportunities in coming months -- everyone will go to the teams with cap room to try to facilitate their deals. What I'm sure the Jazz would love to do now, if they can pull it off, is try to acquire guys in the last year of their contracts -- like, say, a Glen Rice from Houston -- along with a future first-round pick. That way the Jazz can get to the minimum salary without hurting its cap flexibility for next summer while also stockpiling picks. Of course, those trades aren't easy to make. It's a lot to expect to ask another team to give up a last-year contract and a pick. The Jazz might be forced to take guys with more than one year left on a deal because they're going to keep struggling to attract free agents to " http://proxy.espn.go.com/chat/chatESPN?event_id=3811 theres always a possibility.
Geeze...if the Spazz were stupid enough to do that...I'd do it in a NY second. A decent young SF for Rice and a pick? Don't need Rice, and AFAIC, we dont really need any more rookies for a few years. Do it.
no they didn't. b/t the several thousand people we have on this site, most all of whom are sports fans, i have no doubt that everything that is said on SC is heard by someone here. hell, 80% of it is heard by me, i'm sure someone takes up the other 20%. also, if they said it, it would be printed in an article somewhere on espn or said in a chat. considering the rabidity with which cc.net posters pursue rockets info and the rapidity of them getting it on this site, i have no doubts a thread about the comment would have appeared here a week ago if it was said. the chance it was said and somehow not caught is virtually nill.
oh and from that marc stein comment, why would some team have to send an expiring contract AND a pick? we're doing them just as much a favor as they are us. they move away from LT land and possibly let them sign someone and get a trade exception. of course the player was pretty much a trade exception already. you allow the jazz to meet the minimum with no obligation and the same cap room next year. everyone is even. i mean the expiring contract still has value to the original team, it just gets a little increased value and the jazz are helped out. now if a mo t type player is traded (guy w/ talent but overpaid and locked up) then there would be an obligation to throw in a pick. i just don't see it for the expiring contract.
I agree...WHY!?!? They don't need a pick. You're right..... I don't know.......I will just miss Posey though.
You guys are hilarious. I am pretty sure the trade that Marc Stein describes is Rice +1st rnd pick for a future 2nd round pick of the Jazz. This will allow us to dump Rice's contract and match Posey. What he is saying is that CD might not want to sacrifice a 1st rounder for that. The Jazz would be doing us a favor picking up Rice's contract, you are delirious if they would be giving away Matt Damon. Why would a team give away a good player for a bad player who makes more money, makes no sense.
how did you read my post and get either of the points you made out of it? i know what he was describing. reread my post. i asked why we should throw in a pick. you say they are doing us a favor by picking up rice's contract? true, but how much really? everybody loves expring contracts, including us. it's not a mo t/cato long term contract. we'll take the free 9.6M at the end of the season. the jazz would simply allow us the immediate room to sign posey. for their part, the spazz meet the min. salary requirement w/ no long term commitment and have all that cap space next season too instead of having to spend it on someone long term. and, again, i didn't ask them for matt damon in a rice trade. i said just don't take our pick while you're taking the contract. of course they're not throwing a quality SF our way for taking rice's contract. i only mentioned no pick for rice, yes throw in a pick for mo t. nothing involving harpring or AK. you read my post that you quoted right?
Who's stil living in the past and doesn't realize the value of expiring contracts? I think that the Jazz like Harpring enough so that, if we INSISTED on getting Kirilenko back, while also takign on Ostertag, we could make this deal work. They have Collins and Borchardt as well as Amaechi at C. Rice MoT for AK47 Ostertag (or any other bad contract they have) This shaves enough off our salary for us to pursue signing a PF, a backup PG, and a 3rd string SF.
i like that trade a lot. but we would not need to sign a PF. we could start cato and have griff come off the bench.
Why would we put cato out of place when we can easily afford to sign someone who would do a better job? Last year, when we'd play Cato alongside Yao, the defense would collapse on Yao and Cato's not a good enough scorer to be able to take advantage of that. In this regard, a Charles Oakley type is perfect. he'd motivate Griffin in practice and on the court, and he's able to hit that 15ft jumper that is the bread and butter of his NBA career. He wouldn't play much, and that's good, because we want Griffin to develop. An Oakley/Griffin/Cato PF combo would be much tougher than last year, and I'd be very comfortable with it. Ofcourse, as always, we only keep Oakley around for ONE season. Anything more than that, and it loses its effectiveness. Yao/Cato/Ostertag Oakley/Griffin/Cato (Griffin may take starter's spot if he performs) Kirilenko/Boki/T-Mo? or Hawkins? Mobley/Hawkins? Francis/Moochie I think Hawkins would eb a good signing as 3rd string SF and 8 minutes behind Mobley. EXCELLENT defensive team, and probably best shotblocking team in the league. Just loko at that frontline. Our SF averages 2 blocks, lol.
Are you kidding me?!Kirilenko is their futur franchise player,much like Butler is for the Heats!No way in hell they do that trade! Basicly we're giving them our junk for their star player! As much as I would love this,it's not happening... ALA
Kirilenko a franchise player? maybe posey, but not Kirilenko lol!! Seriously though. Kirilenko is not franchise player.
AK is good homie................but you just might be throwin around Franchise and star player a little to easy He's neither of those things
