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trade whatever it takes to SAC for Cousins

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by JR, Dec 16, 2010.

  1. Red Rising

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    Cousins is not for sale. Kings gm would be fired immediately if Cousins gets traded. Only way he gets traded if is a Star is coming back in return.
     
  2. Red Rising

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    Houston should go after someone attainable like Nene, Deandre Jordan or Javale Mcgee.
     
  3. thumbs

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    Using that logic we should exert our efforts to acquire Javale McGee. McGee is not the sharpest knife in the box, but then again, he is not one missed med from Bedlam like Cousins.
     
  4. ROXTXIA

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    Hmn, maybe. Depends on what gets offered. But the team sending players would have to give up a lot, or, at least, what looks like a lot.

    That team is such a dysfunctional mess. Tyreke Evans the chucker. DeMarcus Cousins the hothead. Paul Westphal, the coach from yesteryear.
     
  5. coachbadlee

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    Thats the problem. None of these people are attainable.
     
  6. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    This discussion has nothing to do with McGee. This is about your assertion that Cousins is short. I just proved that he is one of the longest players in the NBA. I'm never said Cousins is sure thing. I just said he has all the physical tools to be a dominant big man in this league including the attitude.


     
  7. Bo6

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    There is a reason why Morey tried to trade up to get him.
     
  8. Red Rising

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    I know, just more attainable than Cousins IMHO. We have the assets of the world. Morey is going to show us what hes made of in less than 10 days. Should be a very exciting week.
     
  9. Red Rising

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    I would try anything to get Cousins. He is a potential franchise center. Just keep Martin, Lowry, Chuck, TWill, and Lee.
     
  10. tiger0330

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    Cousins game is way further developed than Jordan Hill despite being 3 years younger and having less time in the league.

    I know Hill started late but what was his mom thinking when he was the tallest kid in the class and you didn't enroll him in the towns bball kids league.

    It's a pipe dream to think you can trade for this kid, Sactown is prepared to live with his immaturity, he had that rep before they got him. Short of him blowing up and getting busted for a felony, I think they keep him and develop him. As the Rox know, talented big men are hard to find.
     
  11. megastahr

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    In all reality...

    If we want cousins we can get cousins I believe. Just I think it will come down to the deadline and what our other options are…if we cant get Gasol…Gortat, Asik…or someone of that nature at a good price.

    You would think that we could offer Brooks (who they want) and either T will or budinger and our 1st round pick next year. If there is no other trade brewing we could also include yao mings expiring and take on salary to let them have an insane amount of cap space next year… or use a trade exception in a separate deal.

    We already gave them Taylor as a favor…I think this is a very good offer and extreme overpay…Does anyone think the kings turn something like this down?
     
  12. jopatmc

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    I think the deal would be Scola, Yao, Brooks, the right to flip draft picks this season, plus next year's ny pick for Cousins, Laundry, and Garcia.
     
  13. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    I would do that in a heart beat.
     
  14. thumbs

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    Would you do my Laundry too? :grin:
     
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    If those are the current players being given, I doubt Sac would pull that trade for any less than the Rockets 2011 & 2012 picks and not the NY 2012 pick. I could see some protection on them, but I actually would not be opposed to that 2011 pick being protected only say Top 3 or Top 5 and the 2012 pick having protection for the Top 10 1 year followed by Top 5 the next season.
     
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    is Hassan Whiteslide available? look like so far, he havent play much minutes and he got huge wing-span
     
  17. jopatmc

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    Our 2012 pick is TWill.
     
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    Still yet to see a game by Cousins that makes me think like his the next big thing. As of now, young Pf/C that are still infront of him is Blake, Love and Lopez. Heck even Gasol(Marc), Hibbert and Bynum have done more than him. And considering that Howard, Bosh, Jefferson and Aldridge is only 26. Horford and Noah is there and about as well.

    I can't even sees him as an all star as of now or in the next 3-5 years. Yes he will be good, but Shaq-like dominant from a few of the posters? I have my doubts.
     
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    Roy Hibbert is not that good. A lot of people think that because of his hot start to the year; but he's sucked ever since. Cousins > Hibbert right now. The rest of the people on the list are currently ahead of Cousins, except maybe Marc -- I'm not sold on him.
     
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    He's a 5, not a 4. That means you can take Blake, Love, Bosh, and Aldridge out of the discussion.

    Now that leaves Lopez, Gasol, Hibbert, Bynum, Howard, and Jefferson....the rest of the players you mentioned that are either 5s or can effectively masquerade as 5s. Right now, he's better than Hibbert and Gasol. That leaves Lopez, Bynum, Howard, and Jefferson. Jefferson is a 5/4, not really a true 5 but he will probably spend most of his minutes playing that position because of the dearth of legit 5s. Cousins may not be better now but he's in the same discussion. Bynum......a legit 5, hurt all the time, has underperformed. I'd much rather take my chances with Cousins. Howard.....he's better.....he's got the experience factor on Cousins. But he's not available. Lopez......mixed bag, has good skill set, but he isn't lighting it up, and he doesn't seem to play big, seems like a finesse guy, he's better right now, but I still like Cousins long term over him.

    I started off not liking Cousins very much. I still feel like he is risky because of his volatility. I still have question marks about his mentality. But I've watched enough of him on the pro level to see that he has the natural ability and aptitude to play this game at a very high level. Cousins knows winning basketball play. If he could be acquired, he's worth taking a chance on. He's that good right now. If he were playing on a team that wasn't Tyreke centric and he was getting his 36 mpg, he would likely be averaging 18-20 ppg and 10 boards as a rookie. There's a reason why Sac doesn't want to give him up.
     

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