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  1. themocitydon

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    it would be funny as hell if v-span goes back overseas, then all of a sudden averages 30 points a game. that would make van gundy and cd look even more stupid.
     
  2. Madman George

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    here it is translated with one of those online programs. rockets dont seem to wanna let go.


    The Rockets does not loosen to Spanoulis
    The Greek escort wants to leave because as soon as counts for its trainer J.P.R./BARCELONA 18/01/07 03:00 h.

    Los Hosuton Rockets do not want nor to hear speak of the possibility of leaving free the international escort Greek Vassilis Spanoulis, player in whom Winterthur FC Barcelona very is interested. The heleno player, who this summer decided to give the jump to the NBA, is very of the little protagonism that is giving its trainer, Jeff him Van Gundy, and gotten upset enough after they dropped to him that it could be transferred, or be sent to the NBDL (the league of development of the NBA), but the directive people in charge of the Rockets and their proprietor are not arranged to be given off of a player by which they bet and to whom signed a contract of three years and an approximated post of about five million dollars. In addition, in case that Spanoulis could leave Houston the Panathinaikos already has made clear that it will destine the money that is necessary to recover to him.

    Pete Mickeal, very difficult

    Since it has happened these days with Lou Roe, the Barça is arranged to file to the eaves Pete Mickeal, that played the last season in Milk Breogán River, if it is able to terminate his contract in Korea, in this case with the equipment of the Daegu Orions. As in the case of It nibbles, the operation also appears in principle quite difficult.
     
  3. xiki

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    It also says "Pete Mickeal" which is Spanish for "worth no dinero".
     
  4. mogrod

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    I only quoted part of what you said earlier but PERFECT POST.

    VSpan has only shown a few flashes, but a couple of sparkling moments does not hide many more misques. This is where Stro Swift's career has been defined.

    Now, Swft can't hold VSpan's jock when it comes to heart, hustle and bball IQ but you can't keep hoping a player just flips the switch and becomes more efficient and more consistent especially in the situation the team is in now.

    It's JVG's job to win games and you don't mess with a rotation of a 25-16 team just to give a player with potential a chance. If the opportunity presents itself, it's VSpan's job to take advantage of it.
     
  5. vcchlw

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    Do you honestly believe that people think VSpan's as good as Kidd, Nash or Magic Johnson? C'mon dude, he could not even get ONE single minute in garbage time even if Rockets has a 20+ point lead in the 4th quarter. People just want to see him play for 5-10 garbage minutes to see how good/bad he could be. I just couldn't believe people still defending JVG who insists on playing O-fer even if he turns the ball over and over in crucial times, bricks 3s consistently, and makes ill-advised tear drops again and again...and now he even commits stupid fouls on 3 pointers. Rafer has cost us a few GAMES these season and it should be about time to see some changes in rotation.
     
  6. vcchlw

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    LOL! By "makes" I mean "misses" :D
     
  7. ikfit

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    I like Rafer but he make errors... we all know. Why not give this guy some time and make our bench deep, It will be really help when playoff time.
     
  8. deshen

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    I didn't see any effectiveness from JL3. I only saw he took a lot of shots.
     
  9. ferrarif1286

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    please tell me how the guy can prove something playing sporadically of 8 min in over a month?
     
  10. rhino17

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    Thats what I saw as well.
     
  11. Major

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    Have you heard of something called practice? Or do you believe the only time the team plays together is during games?
     
  12. Sherlock

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    For some reason, this whole subject reminds me of one Dan Langhi ... lol

    ... the guy who was going to humiliate us all ... who averaged 2.2 pts/.7 rbs 2 years later, then out of the league.

    or was is it Bostjan Nachbar ... 3 years later being a Rocket killer, averaging 6.4 pts/2.5 rbs. At least he's still in the league.

    I'm sorry guys ...

    This makes no sense.

    JVG is here to win. He'll use whatever players he's got. He runs a tight ship, and expects everyone to play at a contender level, not doing their own thing. If you don't excell, you aren't put on court. JVG wants the players to be good, and sees them in practice everyday. He wants us to win. He's not going to let a personal vendetta get in the way of that. He's a hard nosed coach, and as such, it's either his way or the highway. But, this isn't basketball by committee.

    Just because someone here says "I think JVG doesn't like VSpan, and won't give him a chance," doesn't make it true, nor make any sense for the next person to say how unfair it is that JVG does this. That is circular reasoning, with no truth.

    I remember people getting upset that JVG wasn't playing Yao to his strengths, but requiring him to get strong and learn toughness. He got a lot of flack for wanting Yao to be the player he knew he could be, and now that Yao is stepping up, and has developed strengths where he once had weaknesses, I don't hear people giving JVG the praise for those changes, except for Yao himself.

    Now that's happening with VSpan, JL3, Snyder, Hayes and Novak. He's pushing those guys to be the best they can be. He demands excellence, won't put up with knucklehead behavior, and pushes them to do what it takes to belong on the floor of a championship contender.

    Let him do his job. When Rudy was being all soft and teddy bear, many clamored for his head, saying that we needed a tough, no nonsense defensive coach who knew his Xs and Os. We got our wish. So, let's see how this plays out.
     
  13. AroundTheWorld

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    :D......
     
  14. jkckwong

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    Totally agreed. Every rookie should have a fair chance for developing his potential. You never know how and whether they would improve without having enough on-court experience.

    Many people have said VP has PG potential and they might not be totally blind. It has become too common that RA, when playing more than 35 minutes and is becoming tired, his mental breaks down and starts jacking up bricks desperately. So why not give about 10-15 minutes to VP to test whether he's having PG potential? It's natural that VP would feel frustrated seeing RA throwing up bricks while he is being benched for so many games.
     
  15. Clutch

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    You actually defend your statement as not being a gross exaggeration? Forget the number -- who here ever thought, much less "thinks", Spanoulis was/is "Jason Kidd with a Steve Nash jumpshot and Magic Johnson court vision"? (DaDakota does <I>not</I> count)

    I mean <I>Steve Nash jumpshot</I>?
     
  16. dfwrox

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    Clutch, you should exclude Yao from the list too :D
     
  17. texanskan

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    I don't know how CD looks stupid? All he did was bring the kid over and talk him up. What does Spanoulis' benching have to do with CD?
     
  18. Shroopy2

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    On the actual subject of Trade Vspan

    I'm having a hard time thinking of who would want him? All we'd get back is another scrub at the end of the bench who'd never play in return. Someone worse than Gerald Fitch in last year's Derek Anderson trade.
     
  19. hooroo

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    Dooling's injured, see my sig :D
     
  20. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Oh, I count baby...I COUNT !

    ;)

    For the record, I think Billy needs to develop, I just want him to develop now.

    Never have I said he is Nash, or Jason Kidd, or etc..etc...etc....

    But I do like his potential...A LOT !

    DD
     

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