It´s like people in forums in general in order to see a players greatness needs to remark other players weaknesses which i find dumb at most.
Are you saying that last year lakers which lost to phoenix on the first round of the playoffs would get the same, better or worse results with TMac instead of Kobe?? Let me ask it the other way, put TMac on last year Lakers, do you think they make the playoffs??
Oh I'm sorry I thought we were talking about how Kobe hasn't made it past the first round of the playoffs since O'Neal left. Carrying a team used to mean that the player was willing his team to somewhere past the 1st round. This is how LeBron was being scrutinized until the Cavs went all the way to the Finals last year.
thats just complete nonsense. tmac is one of the best in the league and not a just a good to average player like manu.
Solid 1 star thread. Can Clutch make a rule that whenever someone starts a trade Tmac or trade Yao thread, he is automatically downgraded to rookie? It just ain't happening.
Not sure whether we should trade him. depend on what we get in return. The problem with TMAC is inconsistence: he only plays well when everybody loses confidence in him, which is definitely not the quality of championship.
and why manu??? i'd take so many players instead of manu if I had to trade tmac for somone not as good... Michael Redd, Kevin Martin, JOE JOHNSON....
if u want to trade tmac, the only players that will really improve your team from a perimeter standpoint are: kobe, lebron, and wade. the other perimeter players can't do everything that tmac does. other players might know how to score just as well, but their playmaking is not even close to tracy's level. i would only accept to trade kobe if i get the 3 players i mentioned above. then i would trade yao for dwight howard. bam championships.
I think he is referring to the PER. Anyway here are the Efficiency, PER and +/- stats. Top EFF Player, Team Eff48 EFF 1 LeBron James , CLE 38.7 32.06 2 Dwight Howard , ORL 38.41 30.24 3 Kevin Garnett , BOS 39.08 30.21 4 Carlos Boozer , UTA 40.86 29.62 5 Kobe Bryant , LAL 34.22 26.27 ... 22 Tracy McGrady , HOU 28.21 21.4 27 Manu Ginobili , SAS 34.57 20.69 Hollinger Stats: Player Efficiency Rating - All Positions (PER) RNK Player GP Min FG% FT% TS% Ast TO Usg ORR DRR RebR PER 1 LeBron James, CLE 16 39.8 .486 .706 .571 21.3 8.3 32.8 4.0 18.1 10.9 32.33 2 Manu Ginobili, SAS 16 28.8 .472 .833 .629 20.4 10.5 27.6 4.5 15.6 10.1 28.94 3 Carlos Boozer, UTH 16 34.8 .577 .782 .613 10.7 9.0 26.8 12.2 25.6 19.0 28.21 4 Dwight Howard, ORL 17 37.8 .612 .617 .637 6.4 13.5 23.2 10.9 30.2 21.2 27.24 5 Chris Paul, NOR 14 35.8 .475 .900 .564 34.5 10.7 26.7 3.2 10.3 6.7 27.14 ... 14 Tracy McGrady, HOU 15 36.3 .450 .720 .527 17.2 8.4 31.6 1.8 15.6 8.5 23.22 Top Individual Players +/- Player 1 Team + - +/- Min +/- /Min G 1. K. Garnett Celtics 1,115 -946 169 519:27 .325 14 2. R. Allen Celtics 1,182 -1,019 163 553:26 .294 14 3. D. Howard Magic 1,442 -1,292 150 642:21 .233 17 4. M. Ginobili Spurs 1,009 -862 147 459:35 .319 16 5. P. Pierce Celtics 1,142 -1,000 142 536:15 .264 14 ... not top 50 T. McGrady Rockets 1,110 -1,064 46 546:08 .084 15
yeah, i know he's referring to that. i play espn fastbreak. tmac has been pretty efficient this year. it's only down b/c of his injury.
