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TRADE T-MAC? excerpt from SportingNews

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by jsmee2000, Aug 21, 2007.

  1. ReD_1

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    T-Mac isn't superstar? :confused:
     
  2. ThePrivate

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    He is not a Dr., he is a Rehab Specialist.
     
  3. doublehh03

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    again, 2nd-team all-nba?

    what's elite for some of these posters? dude just came off an injury and made all-nba 2nd team. obviously he could have done better but that's how good he is.

    he's an elite player, but he could have been an other-worldly player
     
  4. doublehh03

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    tell me when tmac has a role player score 31 pts in a game-clincher :D . even yao can't do that.
     
  5. jsmee2000

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    People must be sour b/c we lost in the first round again and need to find someone to blame....and guess what...

    SUPERSTARS are the ones that usually take the blame (even when the rest of the team does not contribute whether you carry the team or not)
     
  6. doublehh03

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    tell me 10 players better than him. i'll give u duncan/kobe/bron/wade/KG/nash. that's 6 and im conceding.
     
  7. doublehh03

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    how is yao on the upside when he has not dominated one single playoff game? where he literally took that game into his hands and made it his?

    even if tmac has not made it out of the first round, he has dominated MANY playoff games. yao has not dominated ONE.

    it's fine and dandy to say yao still has ways to go, but he's busy all summer w/ the chinese team, he's a big guy, his body may not be able to sustain all that and continue to grow.
     
  8. doublehh03

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    again, tell me when tmac has someone who scores 31 pts in a clincher?

    tell me when tmac can score below 20 pts and we have a chance. hell, if tmac scores below 25 pts, none ofh is teams in the playoffs has a chance.
     
  9. doublehh03

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    and u see what i mean by tmac gets all the blame and rightfully so.

    the media blames tmac and some JVG. this is still tmac's team.

    so tmac will deliver next yr. i have zero doubt. it's WCF or bust.
     
  10. doublehh03

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    exactly, i don't disagree. tmac was HORRIFIC on road games. he was his spectacular self at home but for some reason, he was a step or 2 slower on the road.

    but tmac is too good of a player to not succeed in the playoffs. he'll do in sooner or later. and when he does, he's gonna do it BIG.

    i just hope yao will carry the torch also. i'm waiting for his BIG arrival on the NBA stage (in the playoffs). when both tmac + yao do it big => rox do it big
     
  11. Alvin Choo

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    who do we trade tmac with?
    would we be able to find a reasonable offer?
    All KG can get is a pile of contracts and Al Jefferson.

    better to wait out his contract, players that have thier contracts ending that year includes

    Lebron, wade, ford, bosh, kobe, j.howard, joe johnson heck even shaq ends his contract then.

    we have a certain player name yao, that would be the pulling point for most players.

    I'm not saying any of those players is better than Tmac, or even equal to what Tmac brings, but those pool of players surely would not be coming to rox via trading.
     
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    Kobe was blamed for the Lakers losing in '04, was the the best player? Was it his team? According to your own words, NO! That debunks your argument right there. Honestly by that point it wasn't exactly Shaq's team either, but certainly it wasn't Kobe's team.

    I don't care about what McGrady did in Orlando because that McGrady is not the one we have. The one we have is the one we observed in 2006-2007, who was about the same quality as Yao, as much as you can compare them. Honestly, taking your argument to the logical extension, we should be able to unearth Wilt's corpse and he'll still be able to average 50 ppg.

    We're not talking about who has a better case for the HOF, where your argument is valid. We're talking about who can contribute more to the Rockets in 2007-2008.

    From when Yao got injured in December to the end of the season, it was McGrady's team. But he took on the leadership role for the playoffs, and FAILED. That's why I don't think it's his team any more.
     
  13. ThePrivate

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    You want logic? Straight from Tracy's mouth when being interviewed by Stephen A.

    "If we don't get out of the 1st round, it's on me!"
     
  14. doublehh03

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    my god, did u watch the lakers in the finals in 04? if u didn't watch it, don't talk about it.

    kobe was blamed b/c he was selfish and didn't pass to the BEST player in shaq.

    i thought i talked about this before.

    kobe wanted to send the lakers a message since he knew he wanted to opt out and there were rumors.

    notice how this writer didn't even mention yao one single bit in his analysis of our loss. i think to most people, yao played great.

    he did play great if our standards is he's a good all-star.
     
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    then trade tracy b/c yao aint gonna be that guy either. both don't have leadership qualities.

    so trade tracy for a leader.
     
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    and it was. everytime our loss is brought up, it's ALL on tracy (and some JVG sprinkled on it).

    tracy accepted his failure. move on to next yr people.
     
  17. wreck

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    Well it depends, name 9 guys you would trade for tmac one on one.

    Or better yet name 4 swingmen that you would trade for tmac one on one.

    You will quickly realize that not many players have his all around talent. All this an he is still considered to be 80% of what he could be, if he wasnt injured.

    Im glad he shut that guy up, "slight frame :confused: "? the guy is huge.
     
  18. Tfor3

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    tmac is a superstar and will get out of the first round this next season and our team will be healthy and make a run to the WCFs. Period.
     
  19. abc2007

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    I won't bet my money on Tmac!

    I think Rockets wants to trade Tmac now. But because of his big contract, they couldn't find a way to do it.
     
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    I watched every game of that series. OBVIOUSLY Kobe was being a dick. But your argument was that because McGrady took the blame, therefore he is the leader and it is still his team. WRONG. Kobe also took the blame, and it clearly wasn't his team. I was demonstrating the failure in your argument by exhibiting a counterexample.

    This article doesn't blame McGrady for losing. All it says that if the Rockets fail again, there are no excuses any more, and the team should try to rebuild. The logical way to rebuild is to trade McGrady, because Yao makes too much money for Les.

    Anyone watching the series knows that Yao played mediocre basketball. No one thinks Yao played well. The reason they aren't harping on Yao is 1) he was coming off a knee injury, got back merely a month ago, while McGrady has no such excuse 2) Yao has steadily improved his game every year, while McGrady's game is slowly deteriorating.

    The e-mail asked whether the Rockets should trade McGrady. Well, gee, Deveney talks about McGrady. How shocking is that? If the e-mail asked whether the Rockets should trade Yao, then he'd talk about Yao instead. If Deveney talked about Yao when the e-mail asked about McGrady, he'd be rightly accused of not answering the question.
     

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