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Trade Post-Mortem: Rockets Lose Big

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by JCDenton, Mar 9, 2010.

  1. Rashmon

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    You might need to go back to your google results about confidence levels.

    Even without statistical evidence, I can conclude with a high degree of confidence that you are in over your head.
     
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    Epic thread. A thread that points out absolutely nothing followed up by the OP declaring that he's smarter than everybody else. Thank the Lord for jcdenton and his ability to do simple math.

    OMGZZ WE'RE 3-5 WITHOUT BRIAN COOK. MARGINEEE OF ERRUR!!! ME = SMART 2!!
     
  3. robbie380

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    jc, a response to this would be nice. ;)

    and also lowry has missed 12 games and ariza has missed 7 games in a row.

    oh and we are 3-4 in the games martin has started which would actually put us at a 42.8% winning % without 2 of our best players and defenders in ariza and lowry. we were 8-14 in 2010 before the trade and before martin began starting. so that would be an improvement of 6.43% since martin has started....WHAT SAY YOU? :cool: :cool:


    ...man why do i try to argue with trolls :p
     
  4. JCDenton

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    You and the poster you quoted are removing valid data from the sample in dishonest attempt to prove your point. It's like saying the Rockets won 100% of the games they didn't lose. Your sophistry isn't welcome in my thread.
     
  5. DrNuegebauer

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    Jc - please please please please tell me you don't work in a field where statistical analysis is important?

    There's no point arguing with your myopic assessment, you can't see the woods for the trees.

    Simple fact is that you argumentative tone is bogus and your data simplistic and foolish.
     
  6. robbie380

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    and you never acknowledged that the rockets were without 2 of their best players, ariza and lowry, since the trade. have you noticed that they aren't playing? do you think them being absent makes no difference?

    and lol at sophistry and you trying to use a 9 game sample size just lolololol. :grin: and then you want to ignore the 7 game sample size where martin has actually been in his proper role as a starter lol.
     
  7. JCDenton

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    Some really substantive arguments you have there. I guess your data is somehow not "simplistic" or "foolish" because you culled everything that didn't fit your agenda? I work with heavy statistics every day because I securitize debt and sell it to morons. Without finance/statistics I'd have no idea what to charge. I'm amazed that people still buy this garbage after it caused a global financial collapse, but my bank account isn't complaining.
     
  8. BucMan55

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    Good point. We haven't even seen how the post trade Rockets will perform THIS year due to missed games by Ariza, Lowry, and Battier. That's the three best defenders and all solid 25+ minute rotation players.
     
  9. RocketsPimp

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    While I appreciate your attempt at showing us some statistics, you've failed in your goal to show that we lost big. There are things that stats don't show, namely the effects of fatigue, injuries and opposing teams adjustments. You cannot argue that this team played well above their heads the first 2 months of the season and came back to where they truly stand as a whole in January-February.

    To get to the meat and potatoes of your argument, as a team are the Rockets worse off now than they were before the trade? I would agree yes, but we definitely did not lose big as you state. We lost a good defender and scorer in Landry, but we had to make that move to get rid of McGrady and in doing so, acquired a young, talented scorer, a raw lottery pick and additional unknown picks. It's the price you have to pay sometimes and I believe it was a good price considering this team was going nowhere. So we lose a few more games, it's still not a big loss.

    As for your argument of sample size and degree of confidence, you're bark is bigger than your bite. You are comparing a sample size of 9 games to the whole sample of 62, in which the 20 games leading up to the trade they went 8-12. As for your "high degree of confidence"...."well over 50% confidence"....really? I can't believe you actually posted that. It's really laughable and I can totally understand why everyone is piling on.

    Frankly you should go back and take statistics again.
     
  10. BucMan55

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    You should know not to put too much into early statistics when there are too many variables still in play. Namely the injuries to solid rotational players.
     
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    cool so then you are admitting you like to bs people on a regular basis. explains this thread and explains why you have never even pointed out that we have been without ariza and lowry during this SMALL sample size you are trying to use.
     
  12. TheGM

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    http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showpost.php?p=5131971&postcount=398
    Hopefully soon enough it'll be time for JCDenton to leave. Right; I mean you made the bet?

    Martin is shooting 42% as of right now.
     
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    True story, my little brother asked me what being "Owned" meant.

    I told him to read this thread and the way jcdenton is getting treated by everyone is the true meaning.

    He read this thread and laughed and told me he gets it now!

    Haha thanks Jcdenton. You are not as useless as I previously thought!
     
  15. TriCkz

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    Terrible thread.
     
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  17. CXbby

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    The OP's lack of statistical knowledge is impressive. The OP's lack of common sense is epic.
     
  18. TheGM

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    I hope not; the GARM would be a better place without some idiot starting one-star threads like...

    Trade Post-Mortem: Rockets Lose Big

    We will NOT be able to sign a top tier free agent

    Kyle Lowry: a scrub who can't stop fouling

    Garret Temple is garbage. Discuss.

    Maybe so-called "players coach" Rick Adelman is the problem
     
  19. BucMan55

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    If you look at K-Martin's numbers, you will know that 9-13 isn't a lucky shooting night. How can you call his best shooting night a lucky but not his worse shooting night? Usually statisticians like to throw out the top and bottom numbers to get a better range.

    It reminds me of people saying Rafer would shoot 31% for the year and 20% on 3s because he got off to a slow start in '07-08. Strangely enough he wound up right near his career averages. Sample size people.
     
  20. RocketsPimp

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    Uh-oh. Here comes the big statistical gun. Keep it in the holser CXbby. JC's not worth it.
     

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