The rumors Ive been hearing surrounding the #10 are that Miami wants to trade Eddie Jones and the #10 to Memphis for the #4, Dickerson and Brevin Knight
Well, let's assume Knight is a throw in and would be waived if his contract permits (have no clue on that). I wouldn't do it if I were West. I mean yes he drafted Jones and would love to have him, but his play in Miami has left a lot to be desired. I saw the same thing in LA. One night he can go for 25, the next 10. He doesn't drive to the hoop nearly as much as he used to and seems to have lost a step (he was explosive his first few years with LA). Dickerson's health is a major question. Before his injury he was a scorer. He put up nice numbers albiet on a bad team. I'm not saying he's better than Jones, especially on the defensive end, but the #4 pick is hard to trade with the talent this year IMHO.
I would like to acquire a defensive-minded player with the 10th pik,but i think butler will be gone there.Woods is a bad defender (in my opinion)!I would like to take Jeffries,Tsika or even Rush with that pick.Rush could be extremely interesting if we are not going to resign Torres. GRF
Is everyone basing Qyntel Woods' defensive ability (or lack thereof) on what you've read or what you've seen? I know that none of his games were televised in my area, I dont know about yours. It seems like the ones that are ripping Woods "D" now are the same ones who thought we ashould draft him at the 5 before we won the lotto. PS...KT was the 22nd pick
1 Bulls Elton Brand PF Duke 2 Grizzlies Steve Francis PG Maryland 3 Hornets Baron Davis PG UCLA 4 Clippers Lamar Odom SF/PF Rhode Island 5 Raptors (From Nuggets) Jonathan Bender C 6 Timberwolves (From Nets) Wally Szczerbiak SF/PF Miami 7 Wizards Richard Hamilton SF/2G Connecticut 8 Cavaliers (From Celtics) Andre Miller PG Utah 9 Suns (From Mavericks) Shawn Marion SF UNLV 10 Hawks Jason Terry PG Arizona 11 Cavaliers Trajan Langdon 2G Duke 12 Raptors Aleksandar Radojevic C 13 SuperSonics Corey Maggette SF Duke 14 Timberwolves William Avery PG Duke 15 Knicks Frederic Weis C 16 Bulls (From Suns) Ron Artest SF/2G St. John's (NY) 17 Hawks (From Kings) Cal Bowdler PF Old Dominion 18 Nuggets (From Bucks via Suns) James Posey SF Xavier 19 Jazz (From 76ers) Quincy Lewis SF Minnesota 20 Hawks (From Pistons) Dion Glover 2G Georgia Tech 21 Warriors Jeff Foster PF/C SW Texas St. 22 Rockets Kenny Thomas PF New Mexico 23 Lakers Devean George SF 24 Jazz (From Magic) Andrei Kirilenko PF 25 Heat Tim James PF/SF Miami (FL) 26 Pacers Vonteego Cummings PG Pittsburgh 27 Hawks (From Trail Blazers via Pistons) Jumaine Jones SF 28 Jazz Scott Padgett PF Kentucky 29 Spurs Leon Smith PF/C #24 seems like the steal of the draft. #15 being the dud.
I'm with all those who are for keeping KT and drafting the best available player at #15. Getting Ming and hopefully drafting Bostjan Nachbar will be a great draft. Some of you guys want someone who can contribute right away and I agree. Bostjan Nachbar has a lot of international experience and is probably the best suited player in the draft to help a team right away. I say keep KT and just draft at #15.
Is this Euro more like Peja or Hedo? I think Hedo is better all around and more athletic. Peja of course is pure shooting. Damn, Sac is going to be good for years to come.
DITTO!!! C - Ming, Cato, Collier* PF - KT*, Griffen, MoT Sf - Rice #15, Tmo* Sg - Mobley, Torres* Pg - Francis*, Moochie * - only one not locked up for at least 2 more years. Ming and #15 should be locked up for at least 3 years Francis, Torres and KT should be taken care of by the summer's end. Tmo and Collier next summer or just let them go. other than TIME TO GEL . . . what else can we add? Rocket River
There is a big difference between pick #10 this year and pick #15. If we stay at #15 we can hope Nachbar is there (probably will be) and the real deal (who knows). If we get to #11 (Wash) or #10 (Mia)--both of those teams KT should be very attractive to, that likely gives us our second or third choice of Nene, Tiski, Woods, Jeffries, Stoudamire or Nachbar (if he is rising up the charts)--none of whom except Nachbar will likely be available at #15. http://bbs.clutchcity.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=35285 IMO KT belongs in the east as a starter. We can keep 1 year and then probably lose him, or try to parlay him and the #15 pick to really get us a player (who knows, maybe Butler drops and gets in range for us also--maybe swap with Phx at 9 who is set at SF with Marion/Johnson but who needs a PF (KT) + a young athletic scoering SG (Rush at #15?) or backup C/PF (Haislip or Ely or Stoudamire instead with the #15). It is a matter of business, and KT is the most expendable player of some value to move up in the draft (if TMo or MoT had value right now I might be saying pack there bags), to me it sure seems the right time to move up and make sure we get some value for KT.
KT will be on the Rockets at MOST 1 more year. He will not want to play behind, EG, Mo T etc. He should be a starter, and he will bolt next year, or we will do a sign and trade with him. Either way if we do not trade him this year, unless we get rid of EG or Mo, then KT will be gone by next year. I would hold on to him this year, see how he fits in..maybe at the 3 spot ala Rick Fox and if not, then I would trade him next summer in a Sign and trade deal to shore up a weakness on our team. No need to hurry, we have the number 1 pick. DaDakota
DaDakota, I like your answer the best. In my opinion, KT is the best 3 on our roster right now (this is not saying much, lol), but he is not the answer. I will bet we can't keep him when his contract is up, so we might as well get somebody good in return. If we get a good offer for him on draft day, I think some Eastern team trying to get into the playoffs will overpay for Kenny. If he is here for next year, I hope Rudy T. gives Kenny a chance to prove himself as SF. He can defend better than Rice or Morris, and he can put the ball on the floor better than any big man we have. Since he can hit the 3 if left open, teams won't be able to collapse on Ming when Morris is in the game.
My very latest mock draft have Stoudemire being available at #15. I would take Ming and Stoudamire and keep KT, as a result. I do believe that KT came in last year expecting to play SF, and will be even more ready this year. I am convince that any SF we bring in at #15 will not get playing time with Rice, KT, Tmo and EG on the team. We might as well go with Amare which could open the option for more time at SF for EG. At this point I would use #38 to get us a SF/SG type and call that george.
I like KT, and I understand the idea of trying to avoid having 2 rookies. But I would do this trade w/Miami if Jared Jeffries were there. I really think this guy could be a nice option next to drafting Dunleavy, Jr. Granted, he doesn't have Dunleavy's perimeter game, but his perimeter game is still solid, he does a lot of things well, and has a better post and interior game. He may be a bit of a Griffin clone, but what's wrong with that, especially if he can play. In a couple of years: C - Ming (7'5") PF - Griffin (6'10") SF - Jeffries (6'11") Not bad at all, my friends!
Desert Scar- I agree that the 10-15 gap could be huge, especially in terms of SFs getting picked. However, I don't see Washington as a team that really pursues Kenny Thomas-They've got Kwame as their long term solution, and signed Christian Laettner to be the short term solution, and have Etan Thomas who can play some 4 with Jahidi and Haywood at the 5. That's not counting if they keep a guy like Popeye Jones. I think Miami would be a maybe, but are they really going to play Kenny over Brian Grant, who'll be making about 8 million more per season? If they can move Grant like they're trying to do, I think they'd be an excellent possibility. Also-look at Phoenix at 9. I think they'd be the most tailor fit for a trade up-They're solid with Marbury, J. Johnson, Marion at the 1-2-3 (and Penny Hardaway), and feel they have a starter caliber center in Tsakalidis. But Googs has been extremely injury prone and not that good when healthy-if Wilcox, Gooden, and Nene are off the board, and they should be, I think it makes sense for them to pick up a starting caliber PF, and only move down 6 slots, and they could take a 4/5 like Ely, or go with another 4 like Haislip who wouldn't be too big of a reach.
Hopefully Western Conference teams won't back off of these sort of trade proposals from the Rockets. They know we're getting Ming. I guess Phoenix would help us if they really helped themselves. The Suns might be wary of helping its "gotta-get-back-to-the-playoffs" rivals.
Rudy really likes KT. I would be really surprised to see KT traded. Rudy is on record saying that he wants to give KT a shot at playing the 3 next year. Rudy may also want to bring MoTay along slowly for the first few months of the season. This would leave open minutes at the 4 to fill, which would certainly be given to KT. Thus, the earliest I see KT being traded is mid season, if he stops seeing PT. More likely, KT will stick for the entire season to strengthen the run for the playoffs. After next season, odds are that the Rockets will do a sign and trade for KT. Trading up I think is a long shot anyway. Trading down and drafting Chirs Jefferies may make more sense. Jefferies' defense on the wing addresses one of the Rockets' biggest holes (with Yoa addressing the other). The best idea may be to trade the 15th pick for an unconditional pick in next year's draft (or with conditions that will likely be meet like top 5 protection). The extra pick in next year's draft could be given to Memphis, leaving the Rockets with the better of the two first round pick.
