1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Trade Idea: T-mac & Swift for Jermaine O'neal & Stephen Jackson

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by pelbeaini, Apr 17, 2006.

  1. choujie

    choujie Member

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2002
    Messages:
    7,389
    Likes Received:
    77
    Seems nobody realize S Jax is a cancer in disguise. That's why Spurs let him go for nothing. The guy took way too many shots and is a terrible rebounder + a real TO machine.(1:1 Ast/TO ratio for a guard??)
     
  2. pettinati

    pettinati Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2002
    Messages:
    240
    Likes Received:
    0

    Let's trade YOU to the Pacers forum.
     
  3. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2002
    Messages:
    43,784
    Likes Received:
    3,705

    you forgot to mention he helped the spurs win a championship and I've never seen anyone use assist to turnover ratio to evaluate a shooting guard.

    I really don't get this ballhog stuff. 2 turnovers a game doesn't exactly make you a turnover machine.
     
  4. choujie

    choujie Member

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2002
    Messages:
    7,389
    Likes Received:
    77
    Spurs really don't miss him. Pacers fans want him traded. Will Purdue helped Bulls to get more than one championship, but he's still a scrub.

    It's not that much a strech to call #21 Tos per game in NBA a TO machine. Look at Rox players, only Tmac, Yao and Alston have similar number of TOs. Tmac and Alston are primary ball handlers and they both have much higher assists. Yao gets a lot touches in the post where it's a lot easy to turn the ball over because of double teams and less space to operate etc, yet we all agree Yao's TOs are too high. Then what's the excuese for Jax?

    I think Ast/To ratio is also important for shooting guard. When the TOs are high, that means two things: 1. The guy has a lot touches or handles ball a lot. 2. The guy doen'st handle ball a lot, he's simply is a TO machine. If it's case 1, then Jax's assists numbers don't justify for TOs as a guard. he's a ballhog. If it's case 2, then Jax is a TO machine.

    So you can see, Jax is either a ballhog or a TO machine or both.

    Then look at rebouding. It's hard to believe Jax averages fewer rebounds than Alston, but it' true. I don't know if anybody else in NBA as tall as or taller than him has a lower rebouding rate.

    For his career, Jax shot less than 42% with 33% spt shooting percentage. In other words, a SG who can't shoot. Yet he took 0.4shots/per minute shrough his career, slightly higher than Yao's career average so far.

    Pacers fans want Jax out for two more things: He took too many bad shots and he can't hit open shots. Does that sound familiar?
     
  5. xomox

    xomox Member

    Joined:
    Jun 4, 2005
    Messages:
    1,455
    Likes Received:
    25
    idiot reply.
     
  6. tigermission1

    tigermission1 Member

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2002
    Messages:
    15,557
    Likes Received:
    17
    O'Neal has been one of the most injury-prone star players in the league the past three years.

    I would do it only if the Rockets know that McGrady won't recover health-wise, but the trade wouldn't help us all that much, it would be a wash, IMO.
     
  7. ChrisBosh

    ChrisBosh Member

    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2006
    Messages:
    4,326
    Likes Received:
    301


    Well it you WAIT on his back, you are risking losing his value as of now, that is a huge risk. Once you find out that he DOES have a bad back everyone will know as well. Then his value won’t even get the offer being contemplated by pelbeaini.
     
  8. B-balltm

    B-balltm Member

    Joined:
    Mar 31, 2006
    Messages:
    104
    Likes Received:
    0
    A Yao and Jermaine front-court would NOT work, IMO. JO needs the ball to be effective, isn't that great a passer, and shoots a low-percentage. Defensively, he'd probably be good, but offensively, I think those 2 would really limit each other.
     

Share This Page