that's pretty interesting on a number of levels. the first thing i notice is the link to, i'm guessing, H.o.o.p.s.w.o.r.l.d., which is pretty much the touch of death for any trade rumor. knowing that it's probably false, the intrigue of adding Odom got me dreaming. even if this trade doesn't go down, both Houston and LA have improved from last year, with Houston adding Battier, Novak, Snyder, V-Span, and the 'new-and-improved' Sura/JL3. LA has added Radmanovic, Farmar, and Mo Evans. So neither team NEEDS to make this trade, but there are plenty of reasons why something like this could actually happen. Before the trade, here's where the teams stand: Hou 1: Rafer | Head | JL3 [probably] 2: Snyder | Sura | V-Span 3: TMac | Novak | Bowen 4: Battier | JuHo | Hayes 5: Yao | Deke PLUS: $4.2M TE, and ~$3.5M of MLE left Probably will sign: Padgett, LWright, or someone else LA 1: Smush | Farmar | ShammondWilliams 2: Kobe | MoEvans | Vujacic | McKie [InjuredReserve] 3: Radman | Walton 4: Odom | Cook | Turiaf 5: Kwame | Mihm | Bynum PLUS: ~$0. I think they pretty much spent their MLE on Radmanovic and Evans. The reasons for LA to do this trade would be to: bolster depth, help outside shooting, and cut payroll. Odom is not a terrible shooter, but 1) Novak, though unproven, has been automatic, 2) Sura WAS, not is, a good shooter before he got injured, and 3) JuHo can hit the midrange jumper pretty consistently [that's really all he can do]. Plus, Sura comes off the books after next year, and depending on what kind of contract the Rockets give Novak, LA will have around $7-8 million more to spend in 3 years if they do the trade. The main reason for the Rockets to pull off something like this is that we'd finally have a starting-caliber, PF-sized 4. Plus, Odom can hit all the way out to the 3, and can even play PG if needed. He can virtually play anywhere from 1-4 during a normal game, and can play the 5 if we're running a lot. The 2nd rounder also helps. We will be paying about $7 million more in the 3rd year, so there should be plenty of complaints coming from the BBS about his contract. However, there is a HUGE difference between Odom and JuHo in terms of talent - when Odom has a big game, it actually doesn't come at the expense of the team. I would not want to lose out on Novak, considering that, given Reddick's injury, Steve will likely be the hands-down best shooter coming out of this draft. I will miss Bob, too, but I still have to see him play before I devote any emotional attachment to him. One sign of an arguably balanced/fair trade is when you're giving up something that you would want to keep, and losing Novak clearly qualifies under that. Odom was LA's other main option, so I'm not entirely sure that they'd want to do this; but considering how much more depth this trade adds for them, it would almost seem like a positive if they never have to play Sasha. LA 1: Smush | Farmar | Shammond 2: Kobe | Sura | MoEvans 3: Radman | Novak | Walton 4: Howard | Cook | Turiaf 5: Kwame | Mihm | Bynum with Sura able to switch between 1/2, Kobe between the 2/3, and Radman, Walton, and Novak between the 3/4 [until Cook comes back]. HOU 1: Rafer | Head | JL3 (probably) 2: T-Mac | Snyder | V-Span 3: Battier | Bowen 4: Odom | Hayes | Padgett (probably, if we lose Novak) 5: Yao | Deke TMac would probably slide down to the 2 since there's no way that either Battier or Odom get sent to the bench. However, since there's concern about Mac having to chase around SGs, they might just switch Battier to the tougher player. In the event that Battier is too slow, I could see JVG shifting Odom to the bench to be the focal point of the second unit and let Snyder start at the 2. It's likely that, if Novak were traded, JVG would sign Padgett as a replacement. But the overally versatility of this line-up is definitely apparent, since Head and V-Span could play 1/2, Snyder could play 2/3, T-Mac and Battier could play 2-4, Padgett could play 3/4 (probably a stretch), and Odom could play 1-4 (and maybe even 5). We need to win now, and 1) there's no guarantee that Sura has anything left, and 2) JuHo is not a starting-caliber PF on a championship team. A line-up of Skip-TMac-Battier-Odom-Yao would be 2nd to none. the post says that this 'trade' won't be announced until Tuesday, but i think it's safe to say that if H.o.o.p.$.w.o.r.l.d. is reporting it, it's not gonna happen. still an interesting trade, though. this, plus all that Korver talk, would make for a pretty hyped season.
RealGM says that it would be okay. Trade ID: 3302475. It's pretty much contingent on what Novak's starting salary would be in his yet-to-be-signed contract.
Personally, I don't get why we're going for Mihm as the main trading target. Unless we manage to net a starting calibre PF with our TE or 3.5 MLE (which we still don't know if we need to split to get JLIII), I wouldn't be wise to just let go of our mai, true PF for a backup center. Last time I checked, this guy can't play PF unless you wanna pull twin tower. Damn I mention that a lot lately. I would try to pull a trade with: Juwan Howard + Luther Head + 2007 2nd rounder or 2008 1st rounder (lotto protected) for Brian Cook + McKie and filler dillers. Now I still think LA would be idiotic to let Cook go, But again they get a consistent mid ranger and a young, ranged combo guard prospect. Plus a pick. Juwan's contract is a pain in the A$$, but, it'd actually be a fair deal. Cook shoots 40% from downtown , and is pretty bulky. Rebounding's a problem, but we could move Battier on occasions. Basically, Mihm would be more probable, but Cook suits us better. ( we're stocked up on combo guards anyway.)
I still think we should just trade our large te for ronny turiaf and sign jl3 and just call it a off season. Turiaf is a great defender and is a solid and moble at 6'10 witch is big enough to play back up center in todays league. Also we would sure us up at power foward.
howard > mihm and mckie combined. why would anyone want to trade for mckie. he is old, worn down, and just another veteran sitting on the bench. look at the pgs that the lakers have. smush parker? mckie can't even get off the bench with smush parker as the starting pg? you are joking me.
Nope Ronny can flat out play, he has been playing with the french national team since we was 15. He had a really solid career at gonzaga and shot very well from the feild, and was a very good rebounder. The only reason he did not have a impact his rookie was because he had heart issues and had to have surgery. Now he is his healthy. He is gonna pull a boris diaw mark my words.
Mihm isn't as soft as I intially thought and he has been a capable center but he wouldn't get more than 15 minutes a night with Yao being around. He is also injured and we need a athletic and physically strong starting PF with good post defense skills,rebounding,and a jumper. McKie isn't effectve anymore because of his age, and Head is far better than him at this point.
Totally agree!!! BTW, I beleive rudy gay will be able to make every team which passed on him regret including us..... screw u, CD, JVG!!!!
You are crazy to even think about giving up that much for Cook and Mckie. Mckie hasnt done a thing in years and is old and useless and shouldnt even count as a player with value in this trade. Cook has a decent shot but cant play D or rebound. So basically you would give up four players for Brian Cook. Howard although not great is a serviceable PF and Head can contribute significant minutes at SG. Plus you want to throw in two draft picks, one being in the first round, to get a guy who averaged 7.9 points and 3.4 rebounds last year.
I agree..That would be too much for Cook. I would like to have him for his outside shooting but I think Its all dependent on where JVG plays Battier the majority of the time. I'm hoping they have a plan on where all these players will fit in the rotation. It would be nice to have a big man who can shoot from the outside but not if we are giving up too much...
First of all, I amazed that this Laker rumor is still ongoing. Secondly, why in the world would the Lakers trade one of their building blocks for essentially peanuts from us? This seems so beyond probability to me.
