Trade for Joe Johnson?

I'd be able to exercise after a few weeks since thats how long it takes to recover from arthroscopic surgery.

 

The movie was about spectrums. Think about it.

Yes, there's a timetable, but the range is something along the lines of 3-5 weeks. Not 3 weeks to 6 months.

 

Great post. I'm annoyed by nothing more than those that refuse to be objective about things. Things like factuality get tossed out the window in favor of causal reasoning, conjecture, and supposition.

As far as McG is concerned, I give him a pass for last year since he was indeed injured and he had done everything in his power up until then to help this team and organization. Years of carrying the team alongside or (often) sans Yao buys that kind of forgiveness from me. As for this year, I have every expectation that he will come back and play 100%. Why? Because more often than not it's exactly what he has done. Not because of some contract year, mind you, since he wasn't on one-year rentals when he carried this team all of his other years in Houston.
Keep up the quality postings. The GARM needs more of it.

 

Unless what you really needed was microfracture surgery at that time. Then your recovery time becomes much longer, wouldn't you say? Keep in mind that the lesion in the knee couldn't be seen with the MRI machines the Rox docs and others were using. The lesion was discovered after using the #1 rated machine in the industry. It is quite likely the lesion was there prior to the offseason, since it was then that McG opted for the original 'scope which, ultimately, proved pointless.

 

I don't see your point, other than he was feeling good at that time, then wasn't feeling good soon after. The injury was still there and time off would temporarily (and foolishly) help him.

The whole "trade talk sabotage" theory is just about the silliest thing I've read on this board. If McG's motivation is $$$, as so many postulate on here, then there's no way he chooses to have his surgery (a possible career ENDER) just before the offseason in which he'll have to prepare himself for this "contract year". It just doesn't make sense. If you're thinking he announced it to "kill trade talks" what's his motivation? The contract's the same, right? So, why? Because he loves Houston and doesn't want to leave? Ok, that'll work real well next offseason when we re-sign him at a lower rate.

The man was hurt that whole season and tried to play through it. For that, he was crucified. He announced his surgery (likely the hardest decision of his career) and gets crucufied for that too because BBSers speculate he wanted to kill pending trades? Please...no team was going to give us a star player in return for the gimpy McG that was on the court last year anyway.

I'm not claiming McG is a saint, because he's far from it He's emotional, brooding, and (for some odd reason) apparently insecure. But I'll take all of that in exchange for the effort he put out on the court every year night in and night out prior to last year (in which he was documentarily) injured. And I'm willing to bet Daryl and Les feel the exact same way.

 

it wasnt about the timetable for mcgrady, it was the fact that he came back to early. Thats why they are being more cautious now

 

however he did come back strong for the next couple of games almsot avg a triple double, but of course he didnt look healthy on the court, and if you are so ignorant to have wanted mcgrady to keep playing on that knee, it would have gotten worse for everybody.

 

u do know he has been in trade talks BEFORE right? these "conspiracy" theories that tracy announced the surgery to NOT be traded is ludicrous.

in 07-08 when he was battling his knee injury, there were talks of trades that heated up till the last minute. why didn't he get surgery then too?

tracy finally got the surgery b/c he sucked the whole year and never improved with the knee (the doctors said it will never get worse, and yet it did b/c his play got worse). that was a CAREER decision for mcgrady. the missed dunk was basically the last thing he needed to see to confirm his fear.

that's all it is. tracy WANTS to be an impact player again in this league. to do that, something had to be done. and he chose microfracture surgery.

if he comes back strong, that decision will be the act that saves his career.

 

Actually, editing is not a big deal. What in his post depends on the sequence of the surgeries? He makes some interesting points, and you, like some kind of AM radio bluster butt, nitpick and tell a thoughtful poster "you don't know what your (sic) talking about." Not helpful. Not interesting.

 

Um, what? I made a mistake, so I editted it after re-reading it. Mind you, no one had even quoted or responded to it yet. If that's your only retort, I'm really questioning your conviction.

Edit: (sorry Rocket4Life11): Thanks, B-Bob.

 

Those speculations are legit and probably true imo. Tracy felt betrayed by the organization and did them dirty in retort. How is the logic ludicrous here? That being said, I'm not holding a grudge against him on this one. It's all business and what truly matters is his performance on court. I believe most people tend to forgive him last season as long as he delivers.

 

Fixed.

 

felt betrayed? the trade talks in 07-08 made ESPN dude (the detroit trade talks, remember that?), not just last year. why didn't he feel betrayed that year?

 

Did you really expect someone to respond to your post? Its so full of errors that it would take a while to address them all.

I'll do you a favor though...I'll just address most blatant error you made:

He had the surgery in Feb 2009 which was not "just before the offseason." Assuming it takes a year to fully rehab and get into playing shape, that would put his return at Feb 2010. That would give him almost half a season to prove to the rest of the league that he still has value as a player. And if he accomplishes that, then it's likely that some team out there would give him a solid contract.

I guess his alternative would've been to take a hiatus during last season, focus on rehab, and try to help the team during its playoff run. But that would force him to get his microfracture surgery during the offseason (assuming its inevitable). That would mean he would miss the entire 09-10 season, the last season of his contract, and his future would be uncertain.

If this were the case, how many teams do you think would be knocking at his door to offer a decent contract?

 

yes i am guessing you work for the rockets organization, seeming as though you have so much inside info of what mcgrady did last offseason, and another thing are you saying t-mac was willing to have a potential career ending surgery than to be traded?

 

Nope, don't work for the Rockets. And its not inside info. It's pure speculation, that IMO, is the most logical scenario.

I think that salvaging his contract year was the primary reason he had the surgery, but I do believe he did want to avoid getting traded. After all, he's too far along in his career to be part of a rebuilding process, and no player wants to have the tag "best player to never play in the 2nd round"; also, I don't think the timing of the surgery (in relation to the trade deadline) was a coincidence.

 

i am glad we agree that all of this is pure speculation, now we can move on.

 

In other words, you feel that my thought process is 100% logical yet dislike the connotation of it and therefore cannot bring yourself to publicly agree with me.