Ah, didn't see that it was a James-Hayes package. Also, while I know it changes nothing from a luxury tax standpoint, the Rockets CAN re-sign Bonzi for up to the MLE without actually using the MLE, since the team will have his Early Bird Rights. Plus, with Stevie likely to just exercise his player option for next year, it looks like the Rockets will be able to either split their MLE between Landry and a free agent or (somehow) use the Biannual Exception (~$1.3M) to re-sign Landry and have the entire MLE available for a "wish list" free agent (i.e., Josh Childress).
throw in a couple of first round picks with this and maybe they would go for it plus what like you said francis will not pick up that option in memphis and navarro is gone after this year since gasol is gone. hopefully GM's are thinking head might be good still so they may want to take a chance on him and hayes is pretty good at what he does and they are cheap help. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This Trade Succeeded! Go back to adjust your trade or start over. Memphis Grizzlies Incoming Players Chuck Hayes Salary: $1,750,000 Years Remaining: 3 PTS: 2.9 REB: 5.8 AST: 1.1 PER: 11.54 Steve Novak Salary: $687,456 Years Remaining: 1 PTS: 5.5 REB: 1.1 AST: 0.5 PER: 22.10 Kirk Snyder Salary: $2,358,433 Years Remaining: 1 PTS: 3.8 REB: 1.3 AST: 0.9 PER: 14.81 Steve Francis Salary: $2,439,333 Years Remaining: 1 PTS: 5.5 REB: 2.3 AST: 3.0 PER: 9.21 Luther Head Salary: $1,122,000 Years Remaining: 2 PTS: 7.7 REB: 1.6 AST: 1.8 PER: 12.69 Outgoing Players: Mike Miller, Juan Carlos NavarroHouston Rockets Incoming Players Mike Miller Salary: $8,376,194 Years Remaining: 3 PTS: 17.0 REB: 6.6 AST: 3.7 PER: 15.93 Juan Carlos Navarro Salary: $538,090 Years Remaining: 1 PTS: 10.6 REB: 2.5 AST: 2.2 PER: 12.12 Outgoing Players: Chuck Hayes, Steve Novak, Kirk Snyder, Steve Francis, Luther Head
wouldnt work unless NJ could move either VC or RJ first. basically, NJ is screwed because they have 3 max-ish players. if they trade kidd for junk and expirings, then they go from being a bad team to a terrible team that still has two max-ish players. they can't rebuild in that situation. for NJ to tear its team down and really rebuild, VC is the big obstacle, not Kidd. Kidd is just the most tradeable/in the most demand, which is why he is getting all the attention.
this would be a dream come true, but wouldn't happen this way. in order to win the mike miller sweepstakes (a LOT of teams want him), memphis will almost certainly package him with a contract they want off the books, not someone like JCN. The only reason that memphis would consider trading JCN is because he's a flight risk now that Gasol's and they might be able to get something of value for him. if morey is able to get miller/JCN for that package, i will build him an altar in my living room.
Do we have to dip into our MLE to resign our own restricted free agents? And if so, can't we just let him sign an offer elsewhere and match it without touching our MLE? If that's the case, and Bonzi comes on board with Francis using his option.. we'd still have the full MLE to land another impact player. Scary.
Yes, the Rockets HAVE to dip into the MLE (or other smaller exception) to re-sign Landry. Because the Rockets were unable to get a team option on a second year for Landry, he will become a restricted free agent. Because Landry is restricted, the Rockets CAN match any offer for him, up to the MLE. This is also known as the "Gilbert Arenas Rule". However, because a large salary increase would be well beyond his "cap hold", the Rockets would need to dip into their MLE to re-sign him. Just like any other NBA player, a team cannot get "full Bird rights" on a player who has only played one year for that team.
^^^^That being said, the Rockets could still re-sign Landry for the minimum without dipping into any salary cap exceptions, assuming no other team signs him to an offer sheet.
So basically, if Landry puts up incredible numbers and plays out his mind say during the playoffs and his value skyrockets, we could lose him to another team that is willing to pay more than the MLE?
It's a little more complicated than that. Take a look at this for further explanation: http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm#37
Snyder and cash to Seattle for their TE. We then take Delonte West back and possibly send them Luther Head along with our first rounder.
Too much money, too many years. Not a bad idea though. I'd imagine anybody on the Knicks is fair game despite his 20 PPG average this year. He's one hell of a scorer and very clutch -- i've seen him hit multiple game winning shots. He's just not a good enough defender or value though.
aaron brooks+luther head for acie law...I know brooks and law are playing about the same right now, but you guys have idea how clutch acie law is....this is the guy who steps up with pressure...unlike luther head
Is it me or is the deal with Memphis that's been posted in this thread recently so extremely valid and viable that Houston could/would actually pull it off? The deal I'm talking about would send these players to Memphis: Luther Head Chuck Hayes Steve Francis Mike James Kirk Snyder In exchange for: Mike Miller Brian Cardinal Juan Carlos Navarro This to me works very well for both sides. Why Memphis would do it: 1. Memphis gets out of two big contracts (Miller and Cardinal) and gets a player with one less year than Cardinal in MJ 2. It trades one of their many PG's in Navarro who has the potential to bolt this summer with the departure of Pau Gasol. They also won't feel the need to pawn off Kyle Lowry who's been the object of many teams' desires. They can go into camp next year with three quality PG's (they've already got Mike Conley and Crittendon), do some proper evaluation, and trade one of them later. 3. And, it gets two quality rotation players (Head and Hayes) that will fit their style of play. Head can run and shoot the three, while Hayes can play PF/C for their small ball lineup, doing the dirty work that Cardinal does at less that 1/3 of the cost. Plus, both players are fantastic values (high production relative to contract). Why Houston would do it: 1. Miller gives us a legitimate 3rd scorer; no more relying on 3rd scorer by committee. Playmaking, shotmaking, and defensive versatility (we can bring Miller off the bench with Bonzi and either can guard the big SG/SF's of the Western Conference like Stackhouse). 2. Navarro will provide stability at the point, giving us a great ballhandler/shooter at PG spot who could either be the fantastic backup for Rafer (allaying people's concerns for Brooks who might not be ready yet) or could supplant Rafer as our starter. 3. Cardinal would be the necessary evil in this deal, but he is a decent shooter at the PF spot (giving us a different option there from Scola and Landry) and a hustle guy (he is/was known as the Custodian). 4. This deal doesn't disrupt the chemistry/flow that our starters have had with each other over the past month. My one concern with trading Battier is that he provides such a defensive presence that allows McGrady to "coast" on D and focus his energies on the offensive end, and that he does the little things that win games. Plus, Battier won't need to hit 3-4 three-pointers a game for the Rockets to beat the quality teams of the West; Miller does that. From what I've read, Memphis wants cap space and draft picks. If we toss in a first rounder this season, so be it. This deal offers them cap space in Francis and Snyder and two less contracts to worry about in Miller and Cardinal. They get Head and Hayes as valuable rotation players who are high values. I haven't done the research, but are there any other teams out there that can offer better than Rockets in this deal? If we can land Miller AND Navarro, we will have singlehandedly addressed two of our needs/weaknesses in our shooting and PG situation. Morey, get it done.
I have a question for the board, that I'm guessing will get a 50/50 answer. Would you do this deal? It seems as if all players involved is out of the rotation, and could possibly need a new begining. The money matches, but Pietrus would have to approve the trade for it to happen. I know its a small deal, but I see the need for more scoring if Mcgrady gets injured between now and play-offs. Chuck Hayes Kirk Snyder for Mickael Pietrus Austin Croshere ???????
No, they are not. That is sunk money that Les has to pay this year and (in the case of Reed) next year. Plus, those contracts (well, only $1M of Sura's deal) count against the luxury tax.
