Ugghhhh Errrrrr... when was USC's DEFENSE ever "vaunted" this year? They've had to win shootouts all year long. It's not like he was busting through a steel wall.... Come on!
Carr was not this good. But he was a better passer. ...one of the most outstanding statistical seasons for a quarterback ever … became just the sixth quarterback in NCAA history to throw for 4,000 yards and 40 touchdowns. He had 4,839 passing yards and 46 touchdowns, both tops in the nation … exploded in the Silicon Valley Football Classic, completing 35-of-56 passes for a career-high 531 yards and four touchdowns … threw for at least 300 yards in 11 of 14 games, including 10 of the last 11 … finished third in the nation in completions with 34
Knowing Casserly, he might be dumb enough to try to trade the pick to the team with the #1 selection. He'd cycle through his phone list on draft day and call his own office by accident, and before the confusion is resolved, the draft clock would expire and we'd forfeit our pick. Seriously, though, your switching picks idea is an intriguing one.
I think you Vince Young people are off your rocker. I admit Bush made a mistkae last night with the fumble, but honestly every time he touched the ball he made things happen. The problem was that Carrol did not get Bush in the game, and he kept going with LenDale in big plays. The climax was on the 4th Down and 2 yards at the end of the game. Reggie Bush the Heisman Tropy winner was on the sidelines!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHAT!!!! Carrol again decides to go with LenDale and it bites him in the ass. I mean its the biggest play of the year and you cant find a way to get the Heisman on the field. Unforgiveable!! Anyways, keep in mind that Young is a QB and the ball is in his hand much more than Reggie. The question is... can Vince keep that up in the NFL level where the Defensive speed is much faster? I dont think so. Mike Vick is a hell of a lot faster and he is having trouble himself. Reggie Bush is a sick athlete and he will undoubtedly maintaint an edge in the pros!!!!! PICK REGGIE BUSH!!
Over 6 yards per carry and the touchdown run was breathtaking. If that's contained, the kid's even better than the hype. Well, all that proves is that Pete Carroll is a joke. Fourth and two with immortality on the line and he leaves the Heisman Trophy winner on the bench. What a genius! Five for 102 yards. Once again, if that's ineffective, the kid's even better than the hype. 279 all-purpose yards on 24 touches. Against one of, if not THE best defense in the nation. What an embarrassment. The only thing unimpressive was Carroll's gameplan.
OK I was talking to my friend about Vince Young He was making all kinds of comparisons I told him . . .look how Vince runs. . . He is with a purpose and he is thinking along the way . .. not just running on instinct nice gliding strides I told him. . . . He reminds me of Randal Cunningham with his running motion He is like Randal Cunningham that season that Minnesota went 15-1 Only VY is better than that That is what I see him becoming I hope the Texans don't pull as RASHARD INCIDENT like the rockets ONE MORE THING: My last reason for Drafting Young EXHIBIT A: Drew Brees. Once Rivers came in . . it lite a fire under his *ss then when he goes down . . .they still got Rivers Carr is too comfortable in his position and lack incentive to play and be better he knows. . not matter what . . he is starting and he will not be benched Rocket River
People make way too much of his running. He won't be as effective a runner in the NFL just because of the speed of the defenses. Plus you don't want your QB getting exposed to injury. Plus as he gets closer to 30 he'll just be slower. Why don't people talk about his passing? Because it wasn't better than Leinart's, it wasn't better than Carr's in college. It would be too risky to take him compared to Bush, IMO.
Id pick Vince Young! As exciting as a player Bush is I dont think he can be an everyday back in the NFL. I hope those who want Bush knows that he avgs ONLY 13 carries per game in COLLEGE! I dont think he can carry 25 per in the NFL. A guy like Cadillac Williams who is physically similar to Bush, but even abit more bulked couldnt even withstand all the hitting this year. I would start over with Vince and hopefully pick up a Adrian Peterson next year!
I agree Actually Going for it on 4th and 2 had me scratching my head 1. It showed you had NO CONFIDENCE in you defense in stopping VY [I guess he was right about that] 2. Why is your Heisman player on the sideline. . . I mean hell he is one heck of a decoy at worse. The ball should have been in you BIG GUN's hands. . his or Lienarts Rocket River
Alot of folx are saying that USC's defense was weak etc but then throw Lienart and Carr's stats around didn't they both play in the PAC-10 or the NO DEFENSE LEAGUE as we call it around here Rocket River
I agree with all your other points except this. White was cleary the better back last night in short yardage situations.
I could care less about pro football. I do enjoy the college game a lot. If the Texans drafted Vince Young, I would probably become a fan. I guess that would make me a VOF. But I am sure I would learn to like some of the other players as well.
1) Avg. yds per carry should never be the sole yardstick, obviously. He didn't crack 100 yards, and anyhow, he averaged the same yards per carry as White (6.3 vs. 6.2). Every once in a while, for both runners, the USC line would open up a huge hole and a big play would result. Shouldn't the offensive line deserve alot of the credit? Yes, I'd have to say "contain" here, because the damage Bush was causing was contained. The OL of USC was kicking butt at times, but not Bush per se, if you catch my meaning. (EDIT: Think of "contain" as allowing T-Mac to score 15-20 points. Still a very solid performance but not having a big impact on the final score. If you put White out there on every running play, would the game have been that much different? I think not.) 2) The 4th down play was notable, but it seemed like Bush was not even on the field on a third (or more) of the plays. I don't have any numbers, just my casual observations. Carroll's fault? Perhaps. Or maybe he is worried Bush might not produce as well as we all think he would. 3) Decent kickoff returners usually return more than that amount. One of the other USC returners had a better average (21), and the only kickoff return from UT was returned for 29. Here are some NFL return averages - you can see where 21 yds/return fits in: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/statistics?stat=return&league=nfl&season=2&year=2005 Funny thing is, I don't fault Bush much at all for the lateral like everyone else in the world is doing. A hustling UT player caught up at the very last second to get in the way, or else it would have worked. Vince did the same crazy lateral thing, and his just happened to work. I don't feel strongly about not drafting Bush, he would not be a bad selection. Thing is, there are several Pro Bowl RB's that were drafted much, much later, so a #1 pick had better dominate. I just expected more.
I think what he meant was that Bush never got a gamechanging performance during the entire game (except the lateral attempt ). That touchdown was unbelievable. But the truth is that Bush rarely beat the UT defenders to the sidelines where he usually does the most damage. For the most part, I would say Bush was contained, but like you said, he still had a good game numbers wise. Disagree, White was torching us the entire game. We couldn't stop him the entire game, especially on short yardage situations where he was getting 6-7 yards consistently. In situations like this, you go with whats been working the entire game. I don't like adding in kickoff return yards to his offensive stats. Kickoff returners usually gain at least 15-20 yards before even getting touched, in a high scoring game like lastnights, you gonna get a lot of chances, I'm just glad he never got passed the 30 yard line. I'm not trying to take anything away from Bush (I guess that's what it looks like I'm trying to do). It's more like 85 rushing yards w/ 90 receiving yards, which is still very impressive in my opinion. But I thought both White and Jarrett had much better showings than Bush.
The quartarback position is the most important position in the league. On one hand we have a quarterback in Houston who spazzes out after each touchdown pass he throws or runs for when his team is the worst team in the league. On the other hand we have a quarterback who scores the winning touchdown on fourth and 8 with the national championshio in balance and tucks the ball close to him and calmly and confidently glides across the field to his teammates. Lets face it, Vince Young has it. David Carr doesnt have it. Vince Young has the potential to be the greatest ever, you don't pass that up The only way to solidify him as the number one pick as the Texans QB without any debate would be for him to be white and have cute long hair like David Carr. There's no way they'd pass on him then.
Wow.....all the same people 36 hours ago were saying "Draft Reggie Bush ! Don't F*** this up, Texans !"
