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Trade Carr - Draft Vince Young

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by DaDakota, Jan 5, 2006.

  1. VesceySux

    VesceySux World Champion Lurker
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    My diplomatic solution:

    1) Keep Carr
    2) Trade down to #3 and draft Vince Young (while getting a few extra picks)
    3) Draft LenDale White with our 2nd rounder (or trade back up into the first to get him)

    Carr fans get to see how he'll do with another season as the starter (and how he performs given the QB competition). UT fans are happy with the VY pick and the fact that the Texans are allowing him to learn before playing. USC t-shirt fans (thanks, bigtexxx) are happy with the White selection. And I'm happy because the Texans finally get a formidable RB duo (that isn't redundant, unlike what would happen if we drafted Bush). Granted, I still want OL, damnit, but I'm willing to accept this scenario.

    Happy now?
     
  2. Blatz

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    I wasn't sure which Young/Bush thread to put this in but I obviously choose this one. :) I was trying to find an article on "Vince Young Day" and found this one. Sorry if it's been posted.

    Avoiding Texans now should be Young's No. 1 concern

    BY KEVIN B. BLACKISTONE
    The Dallas Morning News


    DALLAS - It was like living a dream, Vince Young said of playing for the national title. It is not over yet, what with all the opportunities that befit Young's new status - the greatest player in bowl championship history - still being thrown at his feet.

    But if Young becomes the first player taken in April's NFL draft, which he declared for Sunday afternoon, his next stop up the athletic ladder could be like living a nightmare: quarterback of the dreadful Houston Texans.
    It will be arduous enough for whomever the Texans, who own the draft's first pick, choose to help turn around their luck. For Young's sake, however, let that soul be Reggie Bush, the USC running back who beat Young to the Heisman Trophy but not to that crystal football awarded the winner of last week's title game at the Rose Bowl.

    It is one thing to be just another No. 1 pick. It is quite another thing, though, to be the No. 1 pick in the city from which you hail, which is what Young, a product of Houston's Hiram Clarke neighborhood, would be.
    And as a quarterback we all just witnessed perform miracles, Young wouldn't be seen in Houston simply as a son returned home. He'd be seen as a savior. He'd be expected almost alone to resurrect the fortunes of his hometown's fallen football franchise.

    It would not be an impossible mission. Houston has been a proving ground for similar, if not exact, confluences before.

    Its NBA team, the Rockets, made University of Houston star center Hakeem Olajuwon the top pick in the 1984 draft. A decade later, he helped deliver back-to-back championships to Houston.

    There was some dumb luck involved, however. The Rockets in the `83 draft picked Virginia center Ralph Sampson. They didn't need another center. A guard would've been better. But they passed on a fellow named Michael Jordan to take Olajuwon and didn't win those consecutive championships until Jordan took a hiatus from basketball after leading Chicago to three titles in a row.

    But that's basketball, where one great player can have a tremendous impact on a team. LeBron James is in his third year with his home state Cleveland Cavaliers, who made him the first player selected in the 2003 draft, and he's still looking for his first playoff berth.

    Great players have a more difficult time turning around bad teams in other sports. Jeff George demanded to play for his hometown team, Indianapolis, and wound up after four years getting shipped out. Kirk Gibson was the rare exception in baseball, starring for Detroit in 1984.

    It won't be easy for Young to avoid such a fate. His hometown is clamoring for him now, like it did more than a quarter century ago when it pleaded for the Oilers to choose Texas running back and Tyler native Earl Campbell with the first pick. Campbell carried the Oilers to consecutive AFC title games in his first two seasons. To no fault of Campbell's, that was as good as it got.
    Houston general manager Charley Casserly, who was reported to be set on choosing Bush, can't help but hear the city rattling. If he were to query anyone in Pittsburgh for advice, they would remind him of how the Steelers passed on local son Dan Marino, now in the Hall of Fame.

    The Texans certainly could use Young. Come to think of it, it can be said now that if Michael Vick keeps working at his game, maybe he can be as good as Young one day.

    But the Texans don't need Young anymore than the Rockets needed another center when they picked Olajuwon. The Texans need a running back. They need someone who can block and keep their quarterback, David Carr, whom they drafted first overall in 2002, from setting dubious records every year for being pile driven into the turf.
    Hand the ball to Young, and he will be welcomed just as rudely to NFL life, no matter his prodigious athletic skills. Vick isn't nearly as big and strong as Young, but he came into the league with a reputation for being able to run away from danger, too. NFL players have added to his reputation. Now it includes "injury prone."

    The Texans should stick to their pre-Rose Bowl evaluations and add the second-best runner in college to their team, Bush. Young should hope so, no matter what his heart may say.

    Young would be better off with the Saints, who have the second pick and very well could wind up in San Antonio one day.

    He'd be best off with Tennessee, where his idol and mentor in life-as-a-big-time-quarterback, Steve McNair, is holed up and just announced he will return for his 12th year in the league. That's as close to Houston as Young should hope to land, suiting up for the team his hometown once called its own.
     
  3. Texas Stoke

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    Vince Young at city hall today: "Texans come and get me"

    I thought that was pretty cool. Put more pressure on 'em Vince.
     
  4. Blatz

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    Well I didn't find an article that I was looking for but FOX26 Sports had a small clip of Vince being honored at city council and his mom started to cry. Vince said, "If the Texans are looking, come and get me!." It may not be an exact quote but I bet it's pretty close.


    Edit: I'm just too slow. Texas Stoke beat me to it.
     
  5. Blatz

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    Channel 39 had a small clip of it too and he said if the Texans don't pick him, he will still love the city and he will still love the Texans. I was hoping to find that quote somewhere so I could make sure that's what he said. If he did, it's too bad some of his fans don't feel the same way.
     
  6. Blatz

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    lol

    I wonder what Domanick and David are thinking while all this is going on.




    Edit: 3 post in a row.....sorry
     
  7. Texas Stoke

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    He is putting some serious pressure on the Texans. I like what he's doing. Make 'em sweat it out. Get as much of the city and fans behind you as you can and that's all he can ask for. I'm sure his agent had a lot to do with that comment and I think it was very smart by him. he wants to play for his hometown, put pressure on their asses.

    Domanick has to be rooting for the Texans to draft Vince so he's probably lovin' that.

    David Carr probably hates the guy right about now.
     
  8. Blatz

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    Even the Rockets are helping to put the pressure on. I think it was ch.13 sports that said Les invited Young and his agents to the next game. Young accepted and I'm sure they'll introduce him to everyone in Toyota Center.

    The scary thing is, all of this has only just begun.
     
  9. rhester

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    Mark it down -

    Texans don't draft V. Young=

    Oilers playoff loss to Buffalo
    Bud Adams moves Oilers
    John McMullen lets Nolan Ryan leave Astros

    Houston sports hall of shame.
     
  10. Xerobull

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    Whoops- missed the sticky. Sorry, Castor. I'll move my post to the sticky.
     
  11. DaDakota

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    Should have stickied this thread...

    :)

    DD
     

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