Growing up, I was an Aggie fan believe it or not, if anything Vince made me a Texas fan although I did have brief brush with that sort of thing when Ricky Williams was there, Vince made me a believer and if that makes me a blind UT fan then so be it.
remember these things never apply to Vince Young!!!! I will hate Vince Young more than ever if we end up passing on bush.
I love how you guys add your stupid biased opinions in the emails to casserly. I am sure he will read them and change his mind. This is unbelievable.
On Matt & Adam tonight they pretty much put this to rest. They said there was a 10% or less chance that the Texans are taking Young. They are re-signing Carr and they are drafing Reggie Bush. There is a 90% chance of that happening. And they are doing the right thing, they see Vince going 3rd to Tennesee, also mentioned Arizona wanted to trade down and try to get Vince at 3rd or 4th. Saints are taking Leinart so not only will Vince not be the #1 overall pick, he won't even be the 1st quarterback selected. Let it go guys.
Yeah, who can argue with getting 2 wins after four years of handiwork. Not I......I mean, maybe you can, because you're awesome....but not I. Blind deference in the face of failure = teh best, or actually let me put it another way bitter UT hating in the face of jealousy = teh best. (or, the fact that I am DOWN TO EARTH while the rest of you are ABOVE THE CLOUDS makes me awesome = teh best) Tceh rulseh! I've said it before, will say it again: If VY becomes a superstar and the Texans take a pass -- the franchise has committed a colossal fu-k up from every possible standpoint. And I will always believe that.
And what happens if they take Young and Bush becomes the greatest RB to ever play while Young struggles throughout his career? And, if that become the case, will you always still believe the Texans colossally f***ed up? Fact is, no one knows how these players will turn out. Hindsight is ALWAYS 20/20. No matter what they do in this draft, it's either going to result in a win/win or a lose/lose situation. Nothing in between.
What we should be doing is keeping our options open and trying to get Tennessee to jump the gun and trade up. We'll get Bush anyway with the #3 pick and we might get a little more along the way.
[relieved] After all these years, some one finally showed up here with an intelligent, unbiased opinion.[/relieved]
Yeah, cause 2 guys from a local sports radio station knows what the Texans are going to do and because they said it, it should be set it stone. This is getting to a point where people are not only choosing sides but they're starting to resent the other side respectively. Why can't people just realize that the problem that the Texans have is a real good problem. Either way we go, we're going to get a very good NFL prospect and we should be eager about it both ways. Me personally, I would rather have Vince than Reggie. I was all for Reggie before the Rose Bowl, mainly because everybody thought Vince was going to back to school for his senior year but now since he's declared, I feel he's the better choice. Either way you spin, you can spin it a milion times, the bottom line is David Carr hasn't shown anything the last 4 years that warrants a 10-15 million dollar bonus. Yeah, I know, he hasn't had a decent line and has had terrible coaching but we can't press the rewind button on this VCR. Carr is going to be 26 next year and probably going to be in his late 20's when we're about ready to compete for a playoff spot. Can you honestly tell me that he is our future QB that's going to lead this team to a Super Bowl?
hell, no they can't tell you that. and i've been one of the biggest dave supporters here. look..if VY starts doing even marginally well...you will have people in reliant stadium chanting vince's name everytime dave throws an interception. it will get real ugly, real quick. i'm so embarassed about what this organization has become over the course of the last 14 months or so. so disappointed. mcnair needs to grab the freaking reigns and take over. he's literally the only one in the organization who i believe has more than 3 brain cells functioning. when the GM comes out yesterday and starts announcing who is and isn't gonna be picked before you've even hired a head coach...that tells you all you need to know about the state of the organization. cluster.
Relevant article with comments from Bill Polian and his experience with the Number 1 pick in 1998. http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2006601090402 Young's Rose Bowl coming out stirs Polian's memories Eight years ago, one day after Ryan Leaf nearly led Washington State to an upset of Michigan in the Rose Bowl, Indianapolis Colts general manager Bill Polian sat in his seat at the Orange Bowl and watched gimpy Tennessee quarterback Peyton Manning throw for a measly 134 yards in a 42-17 pounding by Nebraska. To Polian, Manning's poor performance that night in front of a national television audience -- he passed for nearly 200 yards below his average that season -- didn't much matter. Four months later, the Colts chose Manning with the first pick and left Leaf to the San Diego Chargers with the second. We all know how that turned out. "We evaluate thoroughly," Polian said of the influence the bowl games had on his decision. "We evaluate the guys' whole career from start to finish. I didn't think there was anything untoward about Peyton in that game. They lost to a better team and he was playing on a bad knee." That is the question being raised around the NFL in the wake of Texas quarterback Vince Young's scintillating performance in the Rose Bowl: How much influence do you place on one game? Prior to the Rose Bowl, it appeared a foregone conclusion that Reggie Bush would be the first player picked. Matt Leinart would be next and Young, if he chose not to return to school, perhaps somewhere in the top 10. Now, after overshadowing the two USC stars, how much has Young's performance changed things? "There's an old saying in scouting: Don't upgrade a guy based on an all-star game and don't downgrade a guy based on an all-star game," Polian said. "In a general sense, the same is true of a bowl game. But I was at the Fiesta Bowl and it was the same as the Rose Bowl. Those were intense, hard-fought football games. That's something you put stock in, but again, it's only part of the puzzle." There's still four months to go before the draft, but the Houston Texans have told Bush's camp they are still enamored with him. If the New Orleans Saints hire Mike Martz, who has seen what few others have in Trent Green, Kurt Warner and Mark Bulger, they would figure to target Leinart, whose decision-making would be valued -- as well as his marketing appeal if they expect to be in Los Angeles after next season. That could put Young in Tennessee, where he would wait behind his mentor Steve McNair, whom he has known since high school. Despite all the excitement in Houston last week over the Texans securing the rights to -- presumably -- Bush, the hue and cry now is for the team to dump David Carr and keep Young, a city native, at home. At this time in 1998, Polian got an earful, too. Manning couldn't win the big one, Leaf had more upside. "That was said in the media," Polian said. "I don't think anybody ever said it in the meetings. I've never put much stock in what's been said publicly. We don't concern ourselves with the stories when we're trying to make accurate judgments." That may be sage advice, but it might be hard to remember when watching film of the Rose Bowl and wondering what might be.
One small problem Bill, Vince Young isn't a one hit wonder. He was arguably the best college football player in the nation.
This isn't about Reggie vs Young. It's more Carr vs Young. And based on the last 4 years it is evident that Carr is a nutless coward. As a UT alum I reserved this title only for Chrissy. But so far it can be said, sadly, that today Chrissy is a better quaterback than Carr.
