Well that's a bunch of useless information. What the guy meant was that Young has never had to do a 3 or5 step drop like he'll need to do in the pros. Here are some scouts' opinions. • "Young is a great competitor, that's the thing you have to like about him. But be careful about his athleticism. It's a great attribute but he doesn't have Michael Vick's suddenness. He's got real good speed, but it's not world-class speed, and you see what eventually happens to the guys in this league -- they get beat up and they slow down. He is strong for a fairly lean guy. And you have to like his size. But if you do the film cut-ups on just his throws from last night's game, you're going to be fairly unimpressed." • "Leinart's clearly a bright guy. He's got better feet than most people talk about. His arm strength is average. He doesn't throw as many pure spirals as you would like. But he's a big guy, he's played a lot of football in a pro-style offense and he's had a lot of success. He's not going to carry a franchise on his back, but if you put talent around him, he's going to be a good quarterback in the NFL. And let's face it, we need more good quarterbacks." • "If Young's performance did anything, it made a case that he should have won the Heisman, not [Reggie] Bush. But that was splitting hairs. That's not a very good USC defense he faced -- didn't Fresno State put up 40 on them? What I like about Young is that he's gotten better every year as far as throwing the football. He does spin it a lot better than he did before. Arm strength, like Leinart, pretty marginal. He won't have the same success running the ball in the NFL, not even close. But he's a leader, he'll generate some excitement, and then he'll get ripped [by the media and fans] when he doesn't dazzle in the NFL like people think. Still, if I were him, I'd probably come out. He needs a lot of work and he might as well start getting it now." As for Bush, he still projects as the probable No. 1 pick in April's draft by the Houston Texans. "He still did enough Superman stunts to make you say, 'Wow,'" said one personnel man. "There aren't many players who make you go, 'Wow,' so he's got tremendous value to a team. Maybe he's not a 4.2 guy [in the 40] but he's got plenty of juice." Now, USC running back LenDale White had all these guys pretty excited. "That's an NFL back," said one scout. "He's 220 pounds-plus and he will be a big-timer in our league. He won't dazzle, but he's the type of guy with the right team who can win a rushing title and score a lot of touchdowns." Speaking of QBs
Only if you're too stupid to understand it..... Only if the NFL team that drafts Young makes him play in a West Coast style offense. If the NFL team that drafts Young installs an offense that maximizes his talent and skill, there won't be any need for a 3 or 5 step drop. Vince Young is not a pocket passer. Any NFL team that tries to turn him into one will fail.
Obviously you do know much about the NFL. If you get in shotgun or whatever you want to call it all the time, then you basically take out the power running game. UT's offense is based on speed and misdirection. That works sometimes in the NFL, but it only when its set up by the power running game or the passing game.
Obviously, you do not know very myuch about the game of football. Did you watch the Rose Bowl, or were you asleep? Tell me coach, exactly how did Texas line up in third down and short yardage, or fourth down and short yardage?
seriously, this whole vince young obsession is a little rediculous. i know it was the biggest game of his life, but it was also USC's defense! Fresno State dropped 40 points on USC, and you dont think vince young was gonna have a big game? please. i really hope that he has a great NFL career, but if you are an NFL fan, you know that NO ONE is a guarantee in the NFL, including reggie bush or anybody else that is drafted.
Ugh.... They also said the Run and Shoot wouldn't work in the NFL...it did.... They said the shotgun offense wouldn't work when Tom Landry dusted it off....it did. Ultimatly ANY offense will work if it is not one dimensional....... Just got to get the talent to run it. DD
I'll bet there is an Aggie board somewhere out there on the internet. Maybe they will understand the drivel you post. They're a little slower than we are, you know!
People are already making threats to Casserly demanding him to draft VY. One person called in 610am earlier for the Charlie Casserly hour and gave him a little riddle. What's the fastest way to get run out of Texas with a noose around your neck.............. Don't draft Vince Young and you'll find out. lol. Great stuff.
this pressure will only intensify when VY makes himself available for the draft. they haven't seen pressure yet. the news and events surrounding him declaring himself eligible for the draft will raise the temperature a bit.
I don't want to start over this team with Vince Young at the helm. I think the logical move is to: 1) Keep Carr 2) Draft Bush 3) Use the rest of the draft for OL and DL help 4) Use FA to get a quality 2nd WR and that shut down CB to replace Buchanon.
i agree..it's logical. i think it's time to dare to be something more than that, though. Some dudes might have the coin, but they'll never have the kwan. It means love, respect, community, and dollars, the entire package... organizations don't have these opportunities come along very often.
Carr will probably one day be a pretty good NFL quarterback. Still, what do you want MOST in a quarterback: * Passing ability? * Running ability? * Ability to inspire his teammates to believe in him and themselves? In Vince Young, the only one of the above three that is in question is the first. For the other two, he's absolute off the charts. Bush is exciting, to be sure, and is a dangerous runner. But I don't think I've ever seen a team send someone off the field in 3rd-and-1 and 4th-and-1 situations who is supposed to be the greatest runner in the last few decades. That just doesn't make sense to me -- can you imagine the Lions sending Barry Sanders to the bench on 3rd and 1?
It's not like we are going to the SuperBowl next season. Starr, Dawson, Staubach, Bradshaw, Montana, Young, Elway, Aikman, Farve, Brady Most of the time great quarterbacks get to the SuperBowl. Is David Carr ever going to be in that list? Because if he isn't it will take a long time to get enough talent to compensate for that. I don't think you are any further away from the playoffs with Vince Young than you are with David Carr and you are further away from the SuperBowl with Carr. Think long term- don't pass up Young. I like David Carr. Nice Christian young man- good arm, fair accuracy, leader, but not a good decision maker and doesn't read defenses well. I think right now V. Young can read defenses and make decisions as well as Carr. I know V. Young will struggle at first adjusting to NFL schemes. But freak talent can overcome alot of things. Young has the same cred in my book coming out that Earl Campbell had. Earl didn't know any better his first season than to just try and run over everyone, but it worked. I think V. Young is a once in a lifetime opportunity. What skill set Michael Jordan introduced to the NBA V. Young is going to introduce to the NFL V. Young > Randall Cunningham- Faster and more elusive, a little stronger- more poise and confidence. We need to let it sink in what that guy really did in the Rose Bowl. Can you think of another player that could carry a team that way with that kind of poise? Reminded me of what Montana did to UH in the Cotton Bowl, except with much more on the line against a much better team.
Not a good decision maker??? That's crazy. The Texans offense looked best when they let Carr call his own plays and audible out at the line ala Payton. He is a very good decision maker.
