I'm sorry man but people that don't pay attention really get to me sometimes. Check your facts. The Rockets will not have anywhere close to the money needed to sign a bigtime free agent this offseason. It's been beaten to death on the board. Please keep up with the class. If this is harsh I'm sorry but it's beyond frustrating
So I'm wondering if any Washington deals might be offer or on the table? I'd like to have Washington as 2nd bidding partner (if Philly isn't serious about the dealing AI), because we could get alot talent from them for T-Mac...any combination of Butler, Foye, Young, Haywood, Miller, and McGee. We could possibly get a big man to start this year (and backup Yao, next year) and possibly two to three wing players, who are pretty good on offense. There aren't any AI caliber players in that group, except maybe Butler. Though, all of those contracts are expiring within the next year or so. Haywood, Miller, and Foye are off this summer.
Also consider the trade kicker is a killer. If he stays in Philly then he receives no kicker, and is where they do not want him (or apparently he, they) - so, Step 1 if any deal is to be seriously considered is: SD? Don't demand your kicker. If Step 1 then the rest of the negotiations can begin in earnest.
Morey isn't going to trade Ariza or Brooks unless its a sure trip to the NBA finals, and Iggy isn't going to get us there even with Yao.
My point. Sure Iggy upgrades us from where we are right now, but does he put us over the top or near the top(adding him to what he have now and Yao)? I'm not sure but I'm inclined to say no. That's why I'm iffy on an Iggy deal. (We sorta just went through that experiment with T-Mac and Yao even though Iguodala stays healthy)
Well to be honest, there are a few factors in me not being sold on the Philly trade. For one, I'm iffy that Iggy can be a guy to take us to the next level, and his stats are inflated on a horrible team. I would put him on the same tier as Kevin Martin, Caron Butler, and a aged Vince Carter. His $12 mil per for 5 years does scare me a bit too. Thats a long time to commit to a player. What if like Ariza, who by popular belief, isnt working to well, are both on the books for another half decade. I dont hate the Philly trade by any means, but I think there might be something else out there that gives us future financial flexibility. As for Dalembert, I think you guys are jumping the gun on Yao and how his injury impacts our team. I have Dalembert on two of my three fantasy rosters, so I am very aware of the increase in his stat production. Although I also doubt Yao's ability to perform as he once did after missing an entire season with surgery, I dont think there needs to be a immediate move to focus on that. I think we can put that issue on the back burner untill the summer. There are guys out there that are free agents that can give you similar production as Dalembert has for a lesser price. Between Yao and Dalembert, you would have over $28 million committed to the center position. With a salary cap at less than $60 mil, you are committing half of the cap to two guys in one position, with 13 players left to go. Doesnt sound like the brightest idea ever. If Morey has taught you anything, it should be bang for the buck. As of right now we have $6 million commited to the starting Pf combo of Scolandry. The production we get for that $6mil is excellent. Our PG combination of Brooks and Lowry is solid at a little over $3 million total for both players. We have a team of guys that exceed their contract (Reina) value. I think by doing the Philly deal, you are paying top dollar for C tier talent. I wouldnt mind the team spending the money but only for guys at a higher tier. If we did the Philly trade it also limits us with the resigning of Lowry and Scola, which I'm sure will be bargin players even after a raise in salary. (and to who ever said Lebron and Wade as my options, I think you should evaluate my previous posts and see how stupid you sound make making the reference) I am more in favor of the Washington trade as of now. I think having Butler on the books for 1 season for $10 mil, and some expiring contracts will make us better next season, and give us opportunity to make moves down the road. If Brenden Haywood (expiring) is in the deal, I would think long and hard about bringing him back next season, as his number are similar to Dalemberts but can probably be signed for $3-4 Mil this summer. Just my humble opinion on what is best for the team.
Yea and what would put us over the top? a top free agent which we have almost zero chance of getting this is just an opportunity to get something for tmac instead of letting him walk if we do it leaves us with this team plus yao next year i dont know about you but id rather add iggy and dalembert plus yao instead
I think the only way the Rockets trade Battier is in a 3 way trade to get Chris Bosh. Toronto is going to want a young shot blocking center in any trade for Bosh and that is the one thing we really don't have on our roster right now. I think if Morey can make a trade for a center that Toronto likes he can add Landry and another player (Ariza?) to make a compelling trade for Toronto to pull the trigger on. Thabeet might be someone that could fill that role. I'm sure Memphis would be willing to give him up plus another player in order to get Battier's perimeter defense and leadership. It mentioned in the article that was the type of player they were looking to trade for. I'm sure the Grizzlies fans would love to get Battier back. Plus it would also help them to forget how stupid the Grizzlies front office was to draft Thabeet when they already had Marc Gasol on the roster. :grin:
Well he did try to trade him(Brooks) & Battier to the timberwolves for rights to Rubio, not knowing what type of Impact Rubio would have In the NBA, if he would to come to the NBA --RB
Just imagine our lineup next year if we traded T-Mac and Ariza for Iggy and Dalembert. PF - Scola SF - Battier C - Yao SG - Igoudala PG - Brooks Bench: PG - Lowry SG/SF - Budinger PF - Landry C - Dalembert Thats a scary good team.
Everyone needs to stop thinking that we will magically be able to sign Lebron or Wade, we don't have enough money, or the higher market value. Even if we were able to sign one of them, only one of them can play with a dominant center and that's Wade. I would hate to give up Battier, especially if we were going to get Rudy Gay, he's a really good player...on THAT TEAM, that is. He would have a different role in Houston and who would know if he could adjust to that. I'm not too impressed with Ariza, but I believe that he will be a key peice when Yao comes back. We just need a backup Center for Yao and a pure SG, not necessarily a Star, but someone that can create for themselves while being able to work within the system. I'm casting my vote for Rip Hamilton, dude can create, play D, one of the best slashers in the game, has a really good shooting percentage and never stops moving without the ball. As for the Center, this might sound weird, Ronny Turiaf, dude is all emotion, is always in the top 5 in blocked shots and rebounds, always hustling. I think he would be the perfect backup for Yao.
Another thing I forgot to mention, everyone forgets too, that if we trade T-Mac for Iggy and Dalembert, we take on 1 huge contract and 1 pretty big contract. In this offseason we still have to resign Hayes, Landry, Lowry and Scola. We would have to let at least 2 or 3 of them go, because they are going to get higher contracts then they had before. So if we take Iggy and Dalembert, we're not just giving up T-Mac, we are potentially giving up another 3 of our key players, so that might not be worth it.
1. Landry isnt a free agent this off-season 2. Hayes isnt a free agent this off-season 3. If anyone mentions Lebron or Wade, just ignore it.
Supposedly, Philly wants to trade Lou Williams for Cook, Lowry along with the original Mac -> Iggy, Dalembert; whereas the Rockets want a young piece from the Sixers?
