Actually if they wanted to average 20ppg I think they would then invariably average fewer assists per game. Not that I think it would drop them into the 5-6 range, but I dont think they would be able to do 20/10 in their current situations. I think more like 20/8.5 range.
still better than AB, he's overachiving. he's scoring as much as he is because he's asked to, if we had Yao and Martin putting up 20ppg each, then surely AB wouldn't be putting up 19ppg, right? deron could easily average 20ppg, if you've seen him play, he can basically score at will. great jumpshot, a great slasher, he's got it all. he defers to boozer, okur, etc... and gets his assists. actually, i disagree with you. if nash or deron put up more shots, their ppg would increase, but they'd still avg 10 assists because they are the top of the crop. that's what separates AB from the top tier PG's.
If this were true, then their GMs and Coaches would be really upset since keeping the assists the same and increasing their scoring would lead to more overall points, and presumably more wins.
valid points, and i agree for the most part. but do you think he's the player who oughta be leading the team in ppg? do you think he can defer to Yao and Martin and create easy shots for them consistently? or do you think he's still going to be a scoring point who in turn will take shots away from Yao and Martin? it really doesn't matter, because when you look at our 4th, 5th, 6th best player, we don't have a chance in hell with this roster to win a championship. we really need to draft well, or use the picks + a few expirings + young assets and get better talent, otherwise, brooks being a good or a great pg won't matter.
All, I know is that last year, while taking over the starting spot mid season during his second year, after only playing half of his rookie as a third string PG, Brooks and Yao got to the playoffs and beat Portland. His game has dramatically improved and when Yao comes back, I can see both as valid options for the team.
Nash is one of the best shooters in the league, but as a pass 1st pg, he gets his teammates involved first. all those players that's played in phoenix and had amazing stats, then they go to another team and you notice the drop in their stats, does nash have something to do with that? look at marion as an example, playing with nash, he was one of the best post players in the league, very versatile, often got double doubles, now with dallas, he's not quite the same. playing with paul, west gets so many open looks, he knocks down just about every 15ft shot he gets. would he get those shots if he played with AB? i don't think so, but then again, it's just my opinion. my point is this, great point guards make the WHOLE team better, every player plays better with a great point guard, and it's not to say that the pg can't score himself, cause we all know if nash or deron put up 15 shots per game, you know they'd average 20ppg and 10 assists. it's not that uncommon for a top tier PG to do so. i can't put a link to show you some facts as of now because i'm not at home, but nash, paul, deron could all average 20 - 10 if that's what they wanted to, but they don't because them getting open looks gives the team a better chance to win.
It all depends how one defines the duties of a Point Guard. A Point Guard was defined as a Floor General who controlled the game by setting up players in the best position to score. Scoring himself would mostly be a second option. Today many teams seem to have Shooting Guards playing the Position of Point Guard,generally they have limited ability to set others up for a score.
oh, and it doesn't really matter who scores, if nash is open he takes the shot, but if he drives and kicks it out for a 3, then they score. either way they score whether it be nash or someone else scoring, which presumably would lead to more wins.
I don't think it's that big of a concern, whether Brooks will take shots away from Yao or Martin. I don't think he takes shots away from anyone right now. The way the offense runs, if you get a good look, you take it. You work the ball like you are supposed to and take whatever the defense is giving you. Brooks wasnt taking shots away from Yao in the play-offs last year. The Blazers tried to take shots away from Yao, but that left a bunch of shots for Scola, who really took it to them. I also look forward to what Martin will do to them when they try to front Yao next year.
different team, different scenerio, now that Yao's had his career threatening injury, it's a different ball game. he's not going to get 35mpg, so that puts more weight on the other players shoulders.
true, find the open man. but, we don't have any offense outside of yao, martin, brooks, and scola who can create for others. so the defense can focus more on the 4, and let the 5th man be. this creates a 5 on 4 scenerio, where we are in a disadvantage. all i'm saying is, if martin is what everyone is claiming him to be, then brooks could be a good piece in order for us to get another better player. i think morey had the same logic with landry, we loved him, he was very efficient and played hard, but when martin was offered, he didn't hesitate. he knew that having landry would only get us so far, and with martin we have another big piece of the puzzle.
Avoiding contact and finishing is MUCH easier than absorbing contact and finishing. Brooks has decent body control, but he struggles to finish in traffic. Again, his inability to draw fouls has little to do with whether he "exaggerates contact" or not.
AB Martin Chase lineup is the no defense lineup. Get Well fast Ariza AB Martin Ariza lineup will be balanced.
Funny how you tear him down as if he has no value, then say to trade him while he has some value. Very confucius.
LOL!!!!! Here is your pop quiz for the day... A) Did you read the entire thread or just pop up on the end? B) Can you detect Sarcasim? Yes In order for me to be a full member of the YOF club I must create a thread stating to trade Brooks....
Trading Brooks will only be logical if the Rockets can get a proven floor general in return. It's clear that Brooks is not that person. We've known this all along. He's a 2 guard in a 1 guard body. Will he accept coming off the bench? I can't really answer that. The Rockets for awhile have had a solidified rotation and is ultimately the reason behind their erratic play. The recent trade hasn't help ease this situation either with the loss of Landry. I love Kevin Martin and what he brings, but Scola has become our only big man that is a threat offensively. I honestly thought Jordan Hill would get more time than he has. Yes, I know he's a rookie, but I believe he could have regained his confidence with about 5-7 minutes a game. As far as the off season goes, I believe the Rockets will have to decide what can they do with Ariza and Shane. Do you keep Ariza around because of they still believe he can be a valuable piece or do you move Battier to a contender in return for picks or younger talent? Next, they should make a case for getting one of the big free agents. They have enough assets to get one I believe.
See this game as exhibit A of why brooks and martin cannot play together, they pretty much had the offensive games of their lives, certainly they won't play much better offensively than this. But the defense is just beyond atrocious.
Well what was last night? Both scored 30+ and they beat the Spurs. Jazz were on fire tonight. Players don't shoot that well in an empty gym, much less in a live game. The Jazz as a team average 4 for 13 on 3 pointers for the season. They made more 3s than they usually take today.
