Trade: Bonzi, James for Bobby Jackson? (UPDATE: Done Deal)

I didn't believe they would make the playoffs but that doesn't mean I don't want to be proven wrong.

I am a 100% Rockets fan and Rockets fan only (ROF).

I am b****ing because I do care no matter what I thought about our chances to begin with.

 

Houston ranks where in terms of FTA/game as a team? Somewhere around the bottom of the league right? Now houston's worse than before, as unbelievable as that is because we got rid of the only guy on our team not named Yao that could create his own shot and draw fouls in the paint. But I'm sure getting opposing frontcourts into trouble won't matter in the playoffs where play gets less physical and more relaxed. That is, if we even make the playoffs.

 

mediocre jumpshooters and Yao? You have officially lost credibility.

Tracy is one of the most dynamic players in the league and the fact that you don't understand that shows a lack of bball knowledge.

Have you ever heard of Carl Landry and Luis Scola....Those guys can get you buckets in a variety of different ways.

What about defense? What did Bonzi bring defensively that makes us the second best defensive team in the league? Does that hold no weight with you. So long as we have Battier and Yao we will always be in games because of our defense .

 

I totally disagree with Brooksballs but at least he has passion for the Rockets.
I am excited about the way the Rockets are playing and think they will continue to play well with or without Bonzi. I will miss Bonzi and thinks he does bring a lot off of the bench, but I would do this trade a thousand times over. It is short-sighted not to see how great it is to get rid of James' contract. We will make the playoffs, but without an Artest or Miller it is doubtful we can beat the newly loaded Lakers, Suns, Mavs, and Spurs (again with our without Bonzi).

 

37 percent from behind the arc is nothing to smirk at. That is a solid percentage....

 

People talk about "chasing talent for next season" as you so eloquently put it...but WHAT talent is there? I am looking at the current crop of free agents coming up and there is no VIABLE 3rd piece. We are screwed.

 

I'm sure he means he'll cuss him out. If this is all we do, Les deserves being cussed out, in my opinion.

 

I keep seeing this posted, but it's not true. We just got two guys with contracts that go through next season. We aren't going to have any cap space this offseason to pursue anyone. It will be the same old shtick. We'll have the MLE and we'll get to hear the GM and fans talk about how people WANT to play in Houston, think we are a contender, no state income tax, blah blah. In the end, the players who are willing to sign for less than their value will sign with Dallas/PHX/SA/LA, etc. and we'll use our MLE on another scrub that we'll hear Les brag about.

Maybe some of you will even foolishly buy into the possibility of Francis being one of the "big 3" next year again.

 

Compare that roster to the roster of the 6 teams ahead of us as well as the Nuggets and Warriors.

It doesn't look so good in that light.

Head only takes jumpshots. Head can't rebound like Bonzi. Head can't defend any player other than a PG and since he is a SG he is always overmatched. Head doesn't get the other teams to commit fouls by attacking the basket.

Bonzi's loss is more than just the points. Head can't replace Bonzi. Jackson can't, either.

 

You are correct, his 3 pt shooting is respectable. I only looked at his overall FG%.

Has he had his injury yet this year? I hope so, or else this deal will end up being a two for one before too long.

YOu still didn't explain how Landry is going to get Bonzi's minutes.

 

On point.

 

This is classic Rockets for the past 15 years. Just wait till next year, just wait till next year, just wait till next year. I am tired of waiting till next year and then being dissapointed and then waiting till next year for the same thing to happen. The motto of the rockets this year was It's Time. But we made a mistake in hiring AD and now we are just going to have to keep waiting till next year for a long time I fear, because even though we might look good lately and our team is on a roll. We do not have the defense we will need come the playoffs, so whatever lets just keep posting and complaining like always!!!

 

McGrady isn't even a top 10 player anymore, maybe not top 20. He may have "dynamic" talent, but he sure as heck doesn't play with it anymore. And he is a mediocre jumpshooter. When he's hot he's hot, but when he's not, he's becomes a diet version of Jason Kidd who shoots a lot.

Scola is showing a lot more promise on offense though.

 

This is just a question....What is your opinion on how the rockets have been able to win 9 games in a row in the past couple of weeks? I'm just curious now.

 

Look, you can always find rationality for any trade, even for Gasol to Lakers.
But this trade is what it is, no need to sugarcoat it.

 

Plus Tmac does not have very many good next years left.

 

You don't make anything official. You don't determine my credibility.

Yes, Tracy is a dynamic player. He is also a dynamic player that mostly relies on the jumpshot.

I know Carl and Luis. I also know they are first year players. I also know that neither of them are perimeter players that attack the basket like Bonzi could.

Defensively, Bonzi was a bigger body and a great rebounder for his size. Head and Jackson can't repalce those skills.

 

What about his 39% from the field?

That is worse than Rafer's FG%.

Where is your thoroughness? Credibility? Hah!

 

Although I myself don't really like that trade all that much. In reality, our team can still win with the players that we have after this trade. A lot of you guys talk like we're a lottery-bound team now.

For one thing, we've won several games this season in which Bonzi was a nonfactor. It's not like we rely on him night-in, night-out to win games. In fact, he was one of the most inconsistent players on this team. And yet we're still winning games. We can still go on without him.

Also believe it or not, Bobby Jackson does upgrade our point guard position. Rafer and Bobby is a much better point guard duo than Rafer and Brooks/Head. Much of Bobby's game is attacking the basket. Although, he's not quite the bulldozing force that Bonzi is, it's good to have that type of player at the point guard position.

 

Having cap flexibility doesn't necessarily mean signing free agents. It can also net you a Scola or a James (we got him by trading a contract that was expiring sooner than his). We applaud other GM's for taking chances, but are overwhelmed with anger when Morey moves a marginal player for cap flexibility that could lead to a solid upgrade like Scola sometime in the near future. I hate to see Bonzi go if we don't get somebody else this year, but I would still do the trade, because I'll be watching the Rockets for the next 10 years and want the GM to always be realistic about his own roster and looking ahead and having the flexibility to make important moves in the future.

Look at what's happening with the Texans. Smith is still saddled with cap issues from the idiot before him. He is slowly but surely building the Texans by not making stupid trades or signing marginal free agents for more than they are worth. Each year his cap situation gets better and when the perfect opportunity comes to add the finishing touches he will have the flexibility to do it. I believe Morey is taking the same approach.

We have 3 great GM's in this city now. Let's give 'em a chance.