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Trade: Bonzi, James for Bobby Jackson? (UPDATE: Done Deal)

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by farrisdabis, Feb 20, 2008.

  1. wink2moochie07

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    Head is as much a turn over machine AS Wells except Head cannot PASS or CATCH the ball and he is a soft finisher inside.

    I also do not see how LANDRY will take any of Bonzis minutes being a GOD FOSAKEN BACK UP PF and CENTER.

    Unless of course Bonzi was manning the 4 this whole time without anyone knowing. For someone who "Watches alot of Rockets Basketball" you sure arent too observant.

    This trade means Battier and Tmac play more minutes. Not good esp for Mac.
     
  2. qian

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    Well he did play badly earlier in the season by taking too many jump shots and missing lots of lay-ups. But lately he was playing the right way consistently attacking the basket, and he is one of the key reasons for our recent successes , esp during the time when TMAC was out.

    Who you think could replace Bonzi's role attacking the rim, except for Mac who only does that one out five times

    I agree Alston/Brooks combo is thin and not enough and we should either revive MJ to his early performance or bring in another guard, but not on Bonzi's expense.

    You could be assured that this move is mainly done money wise, ie. getting rid of MJ's contract. this is not a move trying to make the rockets better.

    Plus the risk of messing up the chemistry. In case you forgot, we are still tied with the Nuggets at 8th, and Warriors is only half game behind by beating some tough teams lately. In the contrast, thanks for the weak schedule, we are currently on a 9 win streak, and that will be changed soon coming in March
     
  3. badgerfan

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    Basically it's a difference in perspective. This trade was a move for the future. Implicitly the Rockets are conceding that they're not going to contend this season.

    By contrast, most of the board wanted to make a run for it this year.
     
  4. BrooksBall

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    We were a very borderline team to begin with and Bonzi brought a unique skillset to this team.

    We couldn't afford to take any steps backwards, even if it was losing our 6th man.

    Bonzi was the ONLY perimeter player on this team that drove to the basket consistently. He was a key part of our rotation even if he didn't play well every game.

    So, yes, Bonzi was a key to making the playoffs. Bobby Jackson is a 35 year-old midget SG. The Rockets are worse for this trade. We shouldn't be worrying about next year.
     
  5. durvasa

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    You didn't even think we'd make the playoffs, and now you're flipping out over this? I think people who thought we were going to make noise in the playoffs with Bonzi leading the way have more reason to gripe than you.
     
  6. BrooksBall

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    Landry is a PF. I like the kid but he doesn't have the same skillset and experience as Bonzi.

    Head is a jumpshooter and a midget. He can't replace what Bonzi brought to the table. Head sucks. He will be gone in the next year or two.
     
  7. jVgOwnsYou

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    Your first problem is seeing the trade as swapping players...That's not how you grade roster moves. You have to ask yourself, "does this make our team better?"....Not "is player A better than player B?" etc. Looking at the trade that way, Mike James/Bonzi for Jackson is very lopsided in favor of New Orleans, but again you have to ask yourself, how will this move effect how the TEAM plays.

    Frankly this move is great for the future and good for the present. We desperately needed someone to play minutes behind Alston and Jackson can still shoot the basketball. He has a good understanding of the game as well.

    Bonzi was a decent guy coming off the bench, but he wasn't exactly what we needed. We get what he brings and then some now that Landry will play more minutes.
     
  8. BrooksBall

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    Exactly. And neither Mac or Battier drive to the basket consistently.

    Bonzi was an attacker and could create his own scoring opportunities. He was a big and versatile perimeter player and a solid rebounder.

    Jackson is about equivalent to Mike James. We just lost Bonzi Wells and got nothing in return.
     
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  9. BrooksBall

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    Exactly. I fully agree.
     
  10. TheyCallmeExMan

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    reading brooksballs posts pretty much depresses me...it's like listening to my gf b*****ng about every small detail. I mean if you dont believe the Rockets are going to make the playoffs, why should you care about any trade that they make?
     
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  12. BrooksBall

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    Who cares what I thought? I am nobody.

    The bottomline is that Bonzi gave us depth that won't be replaced by Bobby Jackson.

    We gave up a unique piece of our rotation for another over the hill midget combo guard.

    We are going to chuck are way out of the playoffs now that we have zero perimeter players that consistently look to attack the basket.

    We might as well change our name to the Houston Chuckers since we will now be a team that relies on a set of mediocre jumpshooters and Yao.
     
  13. jVgOwnsYou

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    You're crazy if you think we're not trying to make a run at it this year...For goodness sakes we still have Yao ming and Tracy Mcgrady. Scola, Alston, Battier, Landry, Jackson, Head....that is a solid supporting cast.

    I think people get so caught up in the potential that Bonzi had, but the truth of the matter is he never lived up to what we thought he would be here. If he was so great at taking it to the hole, then why doesn't he average atleast 10 points a game!

    Head can average 10 PPG easy given Bonzi's minutes, and we will continue to win.
     
  14. RedRaiderRocket

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    I am still big on this deal, does anyone honestly think keeping Bonzi would put us over the Mavs, Hornets, Spurs, Suns, Lakers, or Jazz? Meanwhile Rockets get a guy next season who can include for a much better player, and dump Mike James ridiculous salary as well as get a 2nd round pick. Jackson is not better than Bonzi but is not that significantly worse than Jackson. The Rockets will have 11+ million next season in expiring contracts, which is better than keeping Bonzi and James IMO. I understand the problems we have if Tmac gets hurt as insurance, but does anyone think Rockets will survive in playoffs if Tmac gets hurt. I remain all for this deal. Sometimes you have to think about the future, if the Rockets couldn't get Ron Artest or either Miller's whats the point in wasting another first round exit.
     
  15. BrooksBall

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    I hope you see something I don't.

    I see this move as a real step in the wrong direction.

    I don't see the Rockets as a team that should be planning for next season even if we are a notch below the best in the West.
     
  16. d.wang

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    Maybe it's time to get a new girlfriend. :confused:
     
  17. DaDakota

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    A voice of reason in a crowded padded room.

    ;)

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  18. justtxyank

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    Do you think Rafer Alston is a good shooter? Jackson's fg % is worse than Rafer's. Jackson can't "still shoot." If he could, NO wouldn't want to deal him away.

    If Landry gets Bonzi's minuted at the 2/3 spots we are in trouble.
     
  19. justtxyank

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    Agreed Dada! Too bad more people aren't able to see what you two see.

    It's obvious! Landry is our new 2 guard.
     
  20. badgerfan

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    Most of the impact of this trade, outside of getting the Rockets underneath the luxury tax, will be in freeing up some cap space for chasing talent for next season.

    In terms of this season, you're delusional if you think that trading Wells for Jackson represents a step up in terms of equipping the Rockets to go deep in the playoffs. At best this is just a lateral move for the Rockets. Strategically it makes zero sense since NO has had problems with its bench. In other words, the Rockets stayed about the same (best case scenario) and a division rival just got stronger. Not very sound tactically.
     

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