Is Ryan Bowen playing anywhere anymore? I'd be willing to swap Bonzi for him because, despite the quality of player that Ryan Bowen is, I know that he'll work his ass off to contribute to the team.
MAn, wtf is this? This is goin overboard. Yah, he hustled, btu he was a bum!!!! WHy seetle for him then. Its plenty of player all over the US, who can't ball, but they'll hustle their ass off for that minimum and still be irrelveant to thier team winnig the game. Seriously, you guys are...................
Wow... i cant believe sumone would say sumthing stupid like that .... im sorry but we dont need another hustler on our team That CANT SHOOT worth Crap.. i mean come on i can shoot better than him At least Bonzi can be the scorer we need... and yes he fits on this team, he just hasent had time to really play a lot with the team...
The original poster is right....sort of. He hasn't fit in so far, but let's not get impatient. Give the guy some more time, please. He hasn't gotten enough burn to really get a feel for the system and the rest of his teammates. Once he settles in to his role, he will be very valuable to this team. His size, rebounding, and aggressiveness on both offense and defense are sorely needed at the G position on this squad. He's also a decent passer and he knows how to get to the line. Trust me: He can only make this team better. He will never be a starter for us, but he can be VERY valuable coming off the bench and making us more dangerous on offense. I definantly would not trade him at this point.... You really aren't going to get anything helpful in return. Bonzi has a lot of potential on this team. He just needs about 20 more games of 25 + minutes to get a feel for his role with the Rockets.
I agree. Remember Bonzi was a big reason we beat the spurs without TMac back in Dec. He played a flawless game, definitely his best game of the season. He was so effective against the Spurs. That oone game alone is worth seeing him stay here.
All you people who keep screaming for a backup pg, what are you going to do with Head? There is a logjam at the sg position - TMac, Bonzi, Snyder, Head. Head is too cool under pressure - he needs minutes and he needs to learn to play pg with TMac on the floor. Head can develop at that position and there is your solution. Bring in another pg and Head's minutes drops and that is not good, because the kid has ice water in his veins. I say forget about a backup pg. If you want to do an upgrade for this team and move Bonzi and/or Sura's contract, and a number 1, go after a starting PF. Howard has been great, but is old. Hayes is a hustler but at 6'5" and limited offensive skills he is not a long term solution. Get a PF and forget all this talk about a backup PG.
Um, all of us who keep screaming for a backup pg do so b/c Luther is not ready for that role at the moment, and a backup vet pg would help in the playoff's. I agree that we need to address our PF situation but that can be done in the offseason. I hope they use the #1 pick to get an atheletic PF who can also shoot the jumper. For now though they can trade Bonzi, Sura's contract, and a future pick for a vet pg who can tutor both Head and V-Span for the future. He can also probably teach Rafer a thing or two.
do you guys understand the concept of IRONY? I was being facetious you halfwits. However, I do feel strongly that Bonzi would better serve the Rockets by being shipped elsewhere for someone with (arguably) less talent, but a better mold in terms of chemistry.
I agree. I also agree Bonzi isn't a great fit, but he still is one of the few Rockets with playoff experience and who can present mismatches for another team. Unless he was traded as part of a deal for a vet player who brings considerable offensive punch (PG better at hitting the 3 and going to the hole than Rafer) and would play over 20 minutes, maybe, Atkins, Ridnour, Mike James, Boykins, Duhon, etc, we are better off keeping Wells. And I see all those events (or any move where we come close to breaking even on talent in the deal with Bonzi as the principal leaving) as very unlikely. Besides, Wells still has a lot of time to get in better shape and better integrated in the offense. He is doing some things well, but he will have more of an impact as he gets in better shape, he is not a slow man for his size and strength when in shape. Bonzi is an athletic guy for his size, and a presence on the boards and defensively along with his midrange and in scoring efficiency, when in shape. [He also has still >1 month to get into shape, more time than Yao has]
Yeah, and there were guys screaming to get rid of JHoward too. Where are they now, except hiding in the dark embarassed by everything that came out of their mouths. Rafer is NOT a liability to this team. He is an average pg who doesn't turn the ball over and knows his role. When Yao returns, you will find that Rafer at pg is NOT a problem and all you guys will go in hiding along with all the JHo haters. And you really didn't address my point did you? IF you bring in a backup pg, how do you distribute minutes to Luther, Snyder, TMac and Bonzi (if he is not traded) at sg? Could I have an answer?
Unless you TRADE Rafer as a part of the deal, the problem does not solve itself. Rafer takes the backup pg minutes and again you still have a sg longjam of TMac, Snyder, Luther, and Bonzi. How do you distribute minutes to those guys. I want TMac and Luther on the court during crunch time. Why? Because both have ice water in their veins, they don't get rattled and I like my chances with those guys. I also want Yao, Howard, and Battier in the game. They ONLY way that is possible is for Luther to be at pg. He must learn that position, and I think the way JVG is going about using Rafer for 38 minutes and then giving a little time to Luther at pg is the way to go. And again - IMO Rafer is not a problem. Rafer is not an all-star, but you have 2 of the top 6 players in the western conference on the Rockets, you don't need an allstar. You need someone who doesn't turn the ball over and either passes it to Yao when he is in scoring position or gives the ball up to TMac to create. If you are going to move Bonzi, in advance of his option year, OK I understand that, but use that trade bait to acquire a PF, not a pg. PG is not our biggest need IMO.
Howard and Rafer are sub-average starting caliber players. But with Howard we have Hayes and Battier to share the load and provide different combinations/strengths at PF depending on match-ups. I for one was a defender of Howard all offseason as a key rotation player and valuable vet for this year--a complimentary player with our other players that can play the PF, and he has shown me right on that one. But as I wouldn't want the whole PF burden on Howard, I don't like only having one servicable/decent true PG on the whole roster (Rafer). We bring in a quality vet PG (like Atkins or another vet with a more efficient offensive game and better J) and Rafer and that player split those minutes. Head would get most of his minutes at his natural SG spot. We could also go with a killer inside-out or outside-in team with Atkins (PG), Head (SG) & Battier (PF) around Tmac (SF) and Yao (C). That is how you break a defense like Dallas's (punish their traps of Tmac with lights out off the ball players) or match-up with Phx's small ball team. Against more power teams (Utah/SA) Howard and Hayes get more minutes.
Here is a possibility for a trade that would help us at PG and PF: This Trade Succeeded! Go back to adjust your trade or start over. San Antonio Spurs Incoming Players Photo: John Lucas John Lucas Salary: $700,000 Years Remaining: 3 PTS: 3.8 REB: 1.0 AST: 0.8 PER: 12.20 Photo: Bonzi Wells Bonzi Wells Salary: $2,115,000 Years Remaining: 1 PTS: 7.4 REB: 4.1 AST: 1.1 PER: 8.84 Outgoing Players: Jackie Butler, Beno Udrih Houston Rockets Incoming Players Photo: Jackie Butler Jackie Butler Salary: $2,200,000 Years Remaining: 2 PTS: 1.3 REB: 0.5 AST: 0.3 PER: -5.39 Photo: Beno Udrih Beno Udrih Salary: $967,920 Years Remaining: 2 PTS: 5.0 REB: 1.2 AST: 1.9 PER: 9.55 Outgoing Players: John Lucas, Bonzi Wells The Spurs covet a player like Wells and get a backup PG to replace backup PG Beno Udrih. The latter is a pusher and a very decent 3-point threat. Butler is very young but shows promise. He is big enough, strong enough and quick enough to play PF for us. With Big Jake we would finally have enough backcourt depth. Thoughts?
Dude, you can't be serious. Go back in bed and get some sleep so that you can sober up and come back with a sensible transaction tomorrow. It's pretty obvious that you were under heavy alcoholic influence when thinking of that.
