Bonzi is having a great game but one game doesn't advocate anything. When Bonzi becomes more consistant, strings a couple of good games and can most importantly do it with either Tracy, Yao or both on the floor (which he isn't doing right now at no fault of his own) then those boasting to DD may have a point.
I am going to withhold judgement, Bonzi has been really agressive and getting a lot of foul calls...and been OK from the free throw line but his defense has been pretty bad late in the game..... DD
No,....I am going to withhold judgement on his total game tonight to see if we win and what Role he played in the win or loss. DD
Which has been my primary beef with him all year, and why I think he is not a mismatch for the better teams in our confernce.... He let his guy score late and gave up a layup he could have contested..... Bonzi got his....but the officials helped him out a LOT with some calls. My point still stands that with 111 Snyder is a better fit. However, I will give Bonzi credit tonight, the rest of the team was HORRIBLE at least he was pretty good on offense. DD
I think you are mistaken about your expectations with Snyder. Even if he was playing and took Bonzi's minutes, the majority of those minutes would not be with 111 on the court. That's the reason why I believe Bonzi is much more suited for this team. If you want Snyder on the court with 111 it will come at the expense of Battier not Bonzi Wells. In the role that either Snyder or Bonzi would be playing, the primary scorer off the bench, Bonzi is much better suited.
Interesting.....perhaps as a scorer, but when I put this thread up, it was before the trade deadline, and we need help at PG, and we have a player that is about the same production and is much younger and signed for more than just this year...thus the Trade Bonzi bit. I still think the team needs Snyder's defense and athleticism more than Bonzi's post game.....but not when Tmac and Yao are both out....no doubt. DD
I like both the guys and somehow along the way this turned into a Snyder vs Bonzi sorta thing and in my eyes it should be more of Snyder/Luther debate as to who gets backup 2 guard minutes. On a diff. note I really wish they would've brought Snyder in for Bonzi earlier in the game when he played the first 20 minutes it seemed like. He looked completely spent at the end of the game. His fault for not being in better shape I guess but its hard for anyone to stay out there that long. He seemed to have a spring in his step at the beginning of the game that was nowhere to be seen at the end.
First off Snyder defense isn't much much better than Bonzi. We already have a defensive stopper - Shane Battier. Tracy McGrady can also be a great defender when need to be. Snyder defense is good but not that great. Bonzi isn't that bad of a defender either. He gets steals and deflection a lot. Snyder athleticism? You want to see some flashy dunks? Snyder may be able to get up there but he is in no way a better rebounder than Bonzi. I'm sure he's much faster and can handle the ball better but that's about it. For you to say - Rockets need Snyder more than Bonzi is absurd. In the playoff - we need another player that will step up when one of our star is having a bad night. That would most likely be Bonzi. I think JVG knows what he's doing. If he's playing Bonzi over Snyder it's for a reason.
But then why did he start Snyder at the beginning of the year and tell Bonzi to stay home? I think you and I are not going to agree about Bonzi, I think he is a nice low post scorer, but a pretty bad defender - too slow. Oh well...tough loss tonight. DD
He was clearly out of gas....which gets back to another one of my beefs with JVG...but that is another story. DD
I think it's Bonzi's attitude. JVG asked him to go on the road trip with them and he declined. JVG told him to stay away from the team. It's basically showing Bonzi who's the boss. Bonzi thought this was Portland or something. But with JVG running this team - only one person can be dominate. I think JVG showed to Bonzi that he runs this team and Bonzi isn't that important since they were winning without him. Tough loss yeah - but still a great showing by Bonzi. 8-16 FG 11- 16 FT and 9 rebounds. The thing I like about Bonzi is that he create mis-matches. Most 2s are too weak to guard him. While some 3s and 4s are too slow to guard Bonzi's first step. He was demolishing West and was too quick for Brian. Yeah - you're right. Everyone has their opinion. I think Bonzi is more important as of now, and you think Snyder is. We're just lucky we have both of them on our team.
Did you see him in the 4th quarter tonight? He didn't look like he was in shape out there still. But, it was hardly his fault the team collapsed....the Celtics did the smart thing and took him away...and the Rockets had no one to attack the basket...sorry....let me speak plainly..... The Rockets had no one WILLING to attack the basket. DD
I don't disagree. But he was in far worse shape at the start of the season. Hence Kirk starting or at least getting more time. Snyder hasn't done much in the NBA and Bonzi has. I'd rather give Bonzi a chance to get back in shape than give Snyder a chance to prove he's an average to maybe slightly above-average player.
This isn't football where you can make a substitution every change of posession...and Bonzi is a good defender when he wants to be, I'm not gonna deny he played El Matador D on that late layup in the game, but he has the same quickness on D as on the offense when he routinely beats by his man. Sometimes he just has brainfarts.
It seems like Bonzi just ran out of gas by the 4th quarter. And no, he's not in shape. Yet he doesn't have to be when Yao and T-Mac are healthy. He just has to be that instant-offense off the bench to give Yao/T-Mac some breathers on offense. I care more for that than being a slow defender. Our overall team defense can mask individual deficiencies when we truly hustle on D.
