Tracy this is FRUSTRATING. If you want 3 Weeks, USE THEM.

and yet we have a much better with tracy mcgrady than any other player last yr. and our record without him is beyond pathetic. how ironic right?

it helps if those guys follow the rockets on a consistent basis. i mean, barkley did say we're not a good defensive team; our stats are good b/c we play a slow pace (remember that?). media will bash any player if things go bad (look at the ESPN report today on terrell owens and their evidence is FOUR anonymous sources lol)

there's a reason morey has turned away trade offers for tracy. there's a reason the organization remains behind tracy 200%.

 

emjohn's post was right for the most part. he criticized tracy for the lack of effort and intensity. and i have agreed with you on that point. he DOES pick his spots during the season.

but FAKING INJURIES? how is that a relevant criticism?
messing up team chemistry?
doesn't want to pass the ball?
"isoing" other rocket players?

these criticisms are irrelevant and has NEVER HAD ANY PROOF/EVIDENCE of being true.

the effort/intensity has proof b/c JVG has said that many times during his tenure, same with doc rivers. but none of the other criticisms has any validity but critics say those things like they are FACTS.

 

Seriously guys...Did any of you see the interview I was talking about when Steven A. Smith interviewed T-Mac? If you didnt...go watch it and you'll see why many of us are frustrated with him. T-Mac even had it on his website. Im going to keep praying for him, even though its a rollercoaster with him!

 

Only TMac knows about the true condition of his body, so whether he should rest or play, we as fans have no choice. but wait and see how he performs in the basketball court.

What I don't want to hear is another excuse from TMac. If you are not ready, don't play and if you are, play with your whole heart and intensity just like what our true warrior Ron does and lead the team to win.

 

For all here saying "no excuses" i don´t want to dissapoint you but prepare, because this is not going to be the last "injury" of the season for T-Mac.

I can bet my life on that.

 

So what are the chances that McGrady plays in the Golden State game tomorrow. I rather him play in that game than the Clippers game if he's going to even play. We don't really need him for the Clippers game. I can't wait until this team gets healthy though, I just have a feeling we are going to blast off.

 

tmac has never had a team to play with him through a whole 7 game series....that and that alone is why Mac has not won a playoff series....When he was in Orlando everyone said that Me First type of player,,,when he came to Houston people said the he looked to pass to much he will never get it right in some people eyes is all i am saying.....Just win the championship this year and say to the world "what you gone say now?"

 

i hope he has recovered well enough to play,or it sucks for him

 

Thats the realest and truest quote we could tell T mac, like you would tell a small child if youre sick and you wanna stay home from school you have to stay in the bed all day so is you sure you wanna fake sick to stay home

 

The chief export of Chuck Norris is.......pain.

 

Except that those comments from Magic, Barkley and Kenny were in the context of Adelman's motion offense. There's no question that in the first half of last season and in the early part of this season the Rockets' offense looked much better when McGrady sat because he was stopping the ball.

 

Again, Woody Paige went on "Around the Horn" and talked about how he heard that the other Rockets were pissed off with T-Mac because he didn't want to pass the ball. That's a nationally known sports writer on national tv--that raises legitimate questions.

And so far as the ball movement goes Magic, Charles and Kenny talked about how the Rockets' offense looked better without T-Mac. This stuff doesn't spring out of a vacuum.

 

yes, and i've heard JVG, doc rivers, and former and current players who coached or played for tracy said the opposite.

even jon weisbrod, the GM who traded tracy, never brought up his lack of passing (just his lack of intensity).

again, charles barkley also said the rockets defense wasn't that good the past few years, even when it wasn't under JVG. is that true? no, that's his opinion. he watches the rockets what? 2-3 times a year.

if our offense looks better without tmac, shouldn't it BE BETTER? i don't see it in the past 7 games. we are in our EASIEST stretch of games, and we are simply 4-3. there's a reason morey still says "we go as tracy goes."

 

was tracy injured at the time? were there made up trade rumors at the time? when a guy is down, the media will beat him up. don't you get that?

magic also once said tracy was michael jordan of this generation after game 2 of the playoffs v. the mavs. barkley agreed saying he was the best player after that game also.

those are called OPINIONS, not facts.

and please, stop bringing up woody paige. give me ONE ARTICLE. give me ONE QUOTE. but yes, that chron writer can't write it b/c the people who said those things didn't want to be named

facts are facts: we play our best when tracy is playing.

we added much more talent and yet without tracy, we're simply 4-3 through our easiest stretch. with a one-legged tracy, we're 10-5 through our toughest stretch. it's about wins and losses. tracy makes us a WINNING team.

 

Except of course that the Rockets have more going on than just McGrady. They're also working on fitting Artest into the mix, Artest is figuring out how to be productive within the system, Artest is injured, Battier is coming off of surgery and can only play limited minutes, etc. etc. There's a whole lot more that goes into that record than just McGrady.

Regardless of whether or not you agree with it the mere fact that three guys like Magic, Kenny and Charles would talk about how the Rockets looked better with McGrady legitimizes that topic. Magic and Charles are literally two of the greatest players to ever play the game.

 

So Magic, Kenny and Charles were just beating up on him for no reason? You might not like what they're saying but because they are who they are you've got to listen to them. Magic is one of the greatest PG's ever to play the game and Barkley is a legitimate Hall of Famer.

As for the Paige thing I already told you: Paige went on "Around the Horn" and stated that a Houston Chronicle writer told him that the other Rockets were unhappy with McGrady because he refused to pass the ball. Why didn't the Chronicle writer write an article? I don't know, but I'd say it's a reasonable guess that the players he spoke to did so off the record.

 

again, they talked about it. that's fine. WHAT IS OUR RECORD WITH AND WITHOUT TRACY?

again, go through his career, name me one individual (coach, GM, player) that has played with tracy that says he's selfish and "refuses" to pass (since that's the word you use - "refusal to pass.").

great players are great at "playing", doesn't mean they're great at talking about analyzing the game. why do you think great players have made bad coaches/GMs (michael, isiah)?

 

And there's been some players who went on to become pretty damn good coaches. Byron Scott for example. So what? You don't like the message so you're trying to attack the messenger. The problem is that the messenger is freaking Magic Johnson. That's as crazy as attacking the Big O because he said that McGrady's shot selection sucked.

Here's a question for you: remember the Rockets win streak? Remember when LA came to town and tried to break it? Remember how many points McGrady had in that game? The record with and without McGrady isn't a valid measure of his worth unless you can absolutely control all the other variables, and you can't. There's four other guys on the floor and how they're playing is going to be more important that the contribution of any single player.

 

yea, when a player is down, the media beats them up. that's what the media is there for. when a player is going great, you build him up. when it's going bad, you beat him up.

you never hear of that advice that allen iverson gives to lebron james or carmelo anthony. DO NOT TRUST/LISTEN to the media. if you follow sports of celebrities in general, you should know that.

and once again, people speak to reporters "off the record" all the time in terms of "anonymous sources." people can still write articles about them. ESPN ran a whole segment on just "anonymous sources" where players don't want to be named. so yes, you can still write and report based on "off the record" quotes. that chron writer didn't write about it b/c maybe, just maybe, nothing was said.

the chron has never been favorable of tracy. we have fran just stating "how he feels" at will about tracy. that chron writer would have been free to write whatever my friend. if players say things off the record, he can simply said, "i've talked to people close to the team and things are not good with tracy" and write an article about that.

i guess you believe everything the media writes/says i guess.

 

again, NAME ME ONE PLAYER WHO HAS COACHED FOR/PLAYED WITH tmac that says those things?

and your example just shows you how unselfish tracy is b/c in that game, he had 8+ assists despite a poor shooting game. tracy doesn't have to score to dominate a game. his PASSING game is just as dominant. there's a reason JVG to this day continues to say he's one of the most unselfish players he has coached and one of the 2 best playmakers in the game.