Oh......and let me ask you this question.... How many shots are generated by a big guy setting a pick?? How many layups are because of an outlet pass that starts the break?? How many shots around the rim are made easier because of the threat of a great offensive rebounder?? Those were thing BOTH Deke and Hayes dominated at. You clearly underrate the presence and impact an overall big man can make whether he's an offensive liability or a defensive liability. Ron Artest may be creating his own shot, but Deke and Hayes have much better ways to contribute. Artest is better than both, Yes, I am not questioning that but to think Artest and Wafer both blow them away for miles? Try again.
uhhh...why do you think adelman RARELY plays deke? or hayes? think about that. their offensive ineptitude sometimes is too much my friend. deke only plays when yao is hurt basically. and hayes only sniffs the floor if scola/landry suck defensively.
Nah, didn't you guys hear? T-Mac never made it out of the first round, but Yao did! Yao >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>. McGrady!!!!!!!!!!!1111111111111111 Causal reasoning is so fun. Hey, Hakeem never won a title without Sam Cassell but Sam Cassell won one without Hakeem. OMG!!! Cassell >>>>>>>>>>>> Hakeem!!!!!!!!11111111111111111
Because Scola and Landry are just as capable at setting screens, getting offensive rebounds, playing defense, etc.... as Deke and Hayes are. Along with that Scola and Landry are much better at running the floor, which is pretty huge. Really, I am tired of making paragraphs and getting one liner replies.
let's just agree to disagree. next year, we won't have yao, artest, AND wafer. we'll know a lot more.
For a player that took a crap on our franchise, and has said and done some things that have stained our franchise, Tracy gets a lot of love around these parts, these days...
The mob has run its course in the McGrady witch hunt. People are coming back into reality about the entire scope of the situation.
If your using "crap" as a 40 point game. Than yes, he has taken a lot craps in Houston. Oh and it's not love, it's believing in him. You should try it some time knote...
I haven't gone through this thread but I'm wondering if the usual idiots have already said something --based on how many voted for Yao-- like..."now we know how many people on clutch are from China"
lol bingo, starting to see that. I still believe in Tracy but the man has flaws and people still deny it. Next year if he doesn't make it past the 1sr round, the excuse will be injury or losing Artest or having no real C. My biggest beef is Tmac probably would have past the 1st round if he stopped taking those lame deep jumpers with a defender in his face, when the Rockets need a score. Never fails. Long jumper during crunch time minutes is his major flaw. I will never take a Tracy who does this. Top 5 SG don't settle for long jumpers when the game is on the line. They drive or take mid-short jumpers to get a better shot, a three when they have to. With Tmac, you just know it's a long ball near the top of the Key. Epic failure.
Not really. That's his shot. You see every regular season game he plays, he always has about 6-10 jumpers from the top of the key off a screen. Just like Battier's specialty is the deep corner 3.
Fully Agreed. Sincerely, Spoiler <object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/N127qcv72Tc&hl=en&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/N127qcv72Tc&hl=en&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object> <object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/vdPQ3QxDZ1s&hl=en&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/vdPQ3QxDZ1s&hl=en&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>
lol he doesn't even take enough shots in the 4th most of the time; he's usually "passive" remember. what tracy needs is another guy who's willing to want to shoot the ball in the 4th ala a sam cassell or a mike james of 04-05. you know why we won those 2 games on the road v. the mavs: mike james. dude took over whenever tracy sat or couldn't get a shot off. and he never hesitated. we need a cold-blooded killer like that to go with mcgrady. for us to expect mcgrady to be a playmaker/scorer for 3 quarters, and do the same thing in the 4th at a high efficiency is ridiculous. kobe NEVER did that believe it or not. the only person to do that is lebron and he's a freak of nature. hopefully that guy is aaron brooks.
Name me 1 great player in the whole history of the NBA that has never been past the 1st round EVER!!!! Now Mcgrady is leading the "far superior team" Yao led last season to the 2nd round. Ariza = Artest Time for him to get past the 1st round. Afterall this will be his thirteenth season in the NBA Even Yao and Melo got past the 1st round and they have been in the NBA much fewer years than Tmac the GOD
so from your logic, melo > tmac? joe johnson too right? and mcgrady will be leading a "far superior team"?? ariza "may" be better than artest defensively, but offensively he's a better version of shane. and there's no deke to back yao up now. we're going with an unproven NBA player in andersen. furthermore, there's no more wafer to trigger the bench. keep your bias down, b/c the "far superior team" comment is funny. if we had such a "far superior team," somebody would have given us a chance instead of putting us with the the bottom feeders on their predictions wouldn't you say?
The "far superior" comment in quotation marks was made by a t-mac fan explaining why Yao got past the first round last season while Mcgrady has never made it out of the 1st round in his whole career. This team is pretty much the same as last season except you take Yao out and replace him with Mcgrady. Ron was a no show for the Portland series till the last game. Now Yao makes his teammates better. He draws double teams without the ball and leaves one guy pretty much open. This greatly benefitted guys like Scola and Battier. Mcgrady has a reputation for being a ball stopper. Let's see how Mcgrady does this season before his Homers declare him GOD. and way better than a player who led his team out of the first round in 7 years when Mcgrady is trying to do it for the 1st time in his 13th year in the league
haha you guys are fun I have to remark that whenever TMac is playing a close playoffs game, coming to the 4th quarter of a final game he will have to shiver and is all jittery because that is his stigma that he is still that 2 second round virgin. He has to break the curse himself.
i'm sure that comment was made in comparison to the rafers/head/hayes/deke my friend. yes, if tracy and this team played the same portland team (which they're not b/c they're more experienced and has added some pieces), they would beat portland. and now you're saying he's a ballstopper? how the hell does deke and hayes score the ball if he "doesn't" make his teammates better. i don't see yao or any other rockets getting hayes or deke buckets. an injured mcgrady led a team with an injured alston (who didn't play for 2 games) and an injured battier to battle and took a healthy jazz team to 6 games, with head and bobby jackson as the bench guys. if tracy is healthy (for a whole season), they will get a 4th/5th seed. and it all depends on the matchups from there. MATCHUPS DO MATTER if you don't notice.
